Had a letter this morning from CA prison Kern Valley asking for me to send all letter between me and my pen pal to them ?? have know idea why. I write nothing but nice letters ?? do i have to send them ? yep i think do don't i.
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Most odd. Have you even kept them? At most, you may have kept the ones he has sent you but what about the ones you have sent him?
I think you should call them and ask why you have to send them.
It sounds a bit weird to be honest.
I'm with Zascha on this one.
It sounds very weird so give them a call and ask why. And like februarymoon mentioned they can't expect you to have kept copies of the ones you have sent him.
Let us know what happens
Yea i will, they want all the letter he sent me sorry not the ones i sent him. I have know idea why !! its very odd. My pen pal has been odd of late aswell ? i will let you all know what they say
That's really odd. Call first and also... Do you have to send them? You're in the uk so... Not under their law?
Don't think you should send the letters before you've talked to them.
They can't just write to you saying you have to give them the letters, without explaining to you why.
I wouldn't send them before talking to them .
Well i have not got them all anyway ? how come they had my address and stuff ?? any idea anyone. I am going to call in a bit and ask. His letters really have nothing in them other than nice words to me. He has asked me to call a few people but i never did. He also gave me an address of a friend but i think that is fine. Nothing that i can see and they would pick things up before they send it out ?? he is in a prison gang ??
Drinkwater i was thinking the same. i am going to say i have not go them i think and stay well away. It is very odd but my pen pal has been odd aswell ?
Yes, call, absolutely. Sounds like he might be under investigation?? But I don't really know about this method- never heard of this before?
Sorry to say but a very simple solution is merely: I don't keep the letters, I don't have them. It's not like they're going to come to your house in the UK and check!! And, it might very well be true. Not everyone keeps every letter, I don't.
Sounds like one more way to investigate him even if it's a very long shot way. Hey, you might go "oh, okay, here..." and send 100 letters full of crimes and admissions of guilt in parts of illegal activity. You never know, right? So they figure they can't lose by asking you, even if it's a long shot? At least that's the way my mind would look at it. Perhaps someone else has ever heard of this request coming from a prison?
I mean, you don't want to just say "screw you" because it might mess up your time with your pp? So I'd reply, but, ... if you don't have the letters, then... what are they gonna do? The harder part is wondering how much of it or if you should ask your pp about it, etc...wow, that's tricky!!!
I wouldn't even call.
Don't send them anything either.
Just ignore the letter.
Let me clarify my answer. You said that he had given you phone numbers and an address. That could be possible gang connections right there. And if it is a gang thing they're investigating you do NOT want to be anywhere near that. They're smart people. If they were digging for something they could do it without his mail to you.
Perhaps much better advice right here!
Yeah, and sometimes it happens that letters get lost on their way to wherever they're going.
So ... you never recieved the letter - if you know what I mean :D
But what I'm wondering about is if they really are investigating and they say you are working against them, couldn't there be any consequences? I don't won't to worry you, but I don't want you to get in trouble either ...
She isnt in america so not under their law. After all their mailroom is supposed to scan the letters so if they not doing their job not her problem in my opinion
It looks like future correspondence from and to this penpal is going to be closely scrutinised. The gang activity is the biggest clue.
If they want the letters they can come here and get them.
I agree :) but when it comes to an investigation I think they will digg deep when it's quite serious
For them to waste resources like that it has to be something HUGE and i mean like murder etc etc The California DOC has got no jurisdiction whatsoever in the UK they cant do anything. It is the prison that sent the request not the police.
There are no consequences they can dish out on here. #1, she's not in the US. #2, they can't punish her for not keeping any letters. #3, the problem lies in the mailroom.
They can dig as deep as they want. She has nothing to worry about as long as she isn't involved in illegal activity.
Also, my letters both in and out are copied and read. It's not a big deal either.
Thank you all !! sent an email telling them i have no mail. Put it all in the bin. I think i want to stay well away from this i think. Moxie yep i think the best thing to do. Hes been very odd the last few weeks.
Thank you moxie the best thing for me to do is stay well away i think.
Personally i agree with Moxie on this one, i am all for helping but i do not have faith in the justice system on ANY level. I wouldn't be playing with fire, i'd be simply saying i'm sorry i do not keep the letters after reading and you can not help them and then i would be asking myself some hard questions about my friend. Hope everything works out for all concerned.
Ok I'm just generally concerned that's all :)
Yes i am asking myself about my friend, its a hard one. He has been odd of late but i put it down to being in prison and all that. He does ask me to do lots for him not money but phone people i have always said no ( not that daft ) so i think i will be sending a note and telling him sorry i can't write anymore.
They would of obtained that information from letters sent, no doubt when they turned his cell if that is indeed what has taken place. I would expect if he kept your correspondence, they have confiscated that, knowing they are requesting his from you, putting all the pices of a puzzle together to have a greater insight and picture. Is your friend ok, meaning health wise? If you have not called people or sent money on his books and he is still writing, i wouldn't bail on him just yet, but i would be asking a few questions understanding i may not get the answers i seek for obvious reasons.
Thanks for not making calls for him. For me, that would become a wedge in my desire to have a friendship with that person. Unless we were close and it was family/personal calls that I actually wanted to make, knew the people, etc, I would not make calls for anyone in prison given random numbers like that. You're not his secretary and ESPECIALLY not it if has the slightest thing to do with something you should not be involved with. If he puts you in a position with anything like that then he doesn't care about you. A harsh opinion but the truth.
I wouldn't ask anyone I cared about to make calls for me that had any chance of being illegal or troublesome to them. "If" that's what it is, and I don't mean to jump the gun and say it is because of course, none of us know that. But for me, being asked to make calls that are non-family/friend related... (and even that... you better be VERY close to that person!) that would be a big no for me and a big question about the pp.
You have to ask yourself how much does the PP care about melanieann if he is putting her in a position of potential danger and how much he is possibly just using her as his communicant on the outside.
melanieann ~ is this the same one that got pizzy with you when you said you wanted to take a break from writing a few weeks ago?
i've never heard of any thing like this. i'm gonna say DON'T send them back. they can't do a damned thing to some out here even if they were in the u.s.,which you are not. one last thing i agree with who ever posted he's probably under investigation. which of course means a very bad thing for him since they're going to this much trouble. if you did send the letters back and he's spoken of things you might not have known the full story of or understood to be "bad" or gang related then to return them would be bad idea. just ignore them, they can't arrest you or force you to do any thing. they have to know this! they think that YOU won't knowthat, that you'll be scared and hand over the letters.
i've never heard of any thing like this. i'm gonna say DON'T send them back. they can't do a damned thing to some one out here even if they were in the u.s.,which you are not. one last thing i agree with who ever posted he's probably under investigation. which of course means a very bad thing for him since they're going to this much trouble. if you did send the letters back and he's spoken of things you might not have known the full story of or understood to be "bad" or gang related then to return them would be bad idea. just ignore them, they can't arrest you or force you to do any thing. they have to know this to. they think that YOU won't know that, that you'll be scared and hand over the letters.
Melanie i was a little scared !!! but i was thinking ok i will put it on here first. Glad i did i have put all the letters in the bin. Yep its the same one that got pissed off !! i have wrote him and said that i can't write no more. For the best he was to much like hard work.
omg!;) to much like hard work!! lmao! that sounds like something i'd say. of course you were scared that's what the doc was counting on.don't even worry about dude or the doc.:)
There's hard work that's good work and then there's hard work that's just pointless, right?
Perhaps they were supposed to scan the letters before they went out and someone realized that they didn't. Having her send back the letters would cover their AZ*. I have no idea, just speculating....
Ha !!! must be a Melanie thing lol to much like hard work !!!!
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I know this is off thread, but I am new and awfully lost in this maze of pages....I have a question... is there a limit of pages in the one letter that can be sent by mail to a Prisoner ??? AND....how many letters can one write per month....thanks to anyone able to answer these two important questions
You'll need to give us more detail than that. Where is the inmate, which state?