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StarlightMoonlight
StarlightMoonlight

All I can say I hope and pray they knew (and told her mom) before she died.....

(CNN) -- Authorities have arrested a possible suspect in the decade-old JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation, law enforcement sources told CNN on Wednesday.

An investigator with the Boulder County, Colorado, District Attorney's office is bringing the man from Bangkok, Thailand, CNN affiliate KUSA reported.

Sources told CBS News that he is a 41-year-old American and second-grade teacher.

Two law enforcement sources told CNN the man was under investigation for an unrelated sex crime when information led to his arrest in the Ramsey case.

"It is our hope that this arrest will bring some closure to the Ramsey family after a ten-year ordeal." said the family's attorney, Hal Haddon. "We respect the legal process and will have no further comment about the case or the evidence until that process is concluded."

JonBenet's father, John Ramsey, told 9NEWS in Denver that he has been notified of the arrest. Asked if he knew the suspect, Ramsey replied, "to the best of my knowledge, no," the station's Web site reported.

Prosecutors in Boulder have not confirmed the person's identity but are expected to hold a news conference Thursday.

KUSA reported that a man they call a suspect was arrested Wednesday morning and has confessed to certain elements of the crime that are unknown to the general public, KUSA reported.

JonBenet's beaten and strangled body was found in the basement of the family home in Boulder, Colorado, the day after Christmas in 1996. She was 6.

A grand jury investigation into the death of the child beauty pageant winner ended without charges in 1999.

The investigation focused a spotlight on the child's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey. Patsy Ramsey died in June of ovarian cancer. She was 49.

The Ramseys said an intruder committed the crime, but they remained the subject of suspicion and speculation.

In 2003 a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit against the Ramseys, blaming the police and the FBI for bungling the investigation. The Boulder County District Attorney's Office concurred with the judge's opinion the following month, saying there was little evidence against the couple

The Ramseys left Colorado and had a house in Charlevoix, Michigan, where John Ramsey unsuccessfully ran for office in 2004, and in Atlanta, Georgia.


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smiley
smiley

Thanks for posting this and keeping us informed. I feel a real sadness over this case, just like so many others. May it be the start of a closure, and finally put to rest once and for all.

 
Penbeach
Penbeach

yes that is all over Fox , it good that found some one who they think did this.

 
gobbi
gobbi

Good god, that's rough...

 
Lisabelle
Lisabelle

Thank God they finally caught the killer. Could you believe what he said, that he didnt mean to kill her? What was he doing there n the first place. I never thought her parents did it, its just that cases like these parents are the first suspects.

 
skye
skye

I hope they have caught the killer. There is a possibility that they have not. From what I understand he has confessed to the killing, and his ex wife is adament he was with her when the killing occured.

I hope the state does not botch this portion of the investigation as they did the initial investigation.

I have always felt in my heart that the Ramsey Family never harmed their child. And I pray that they finally have the person who did this crime.

I know the legal department will have a lot of work ahead of them.

Mr.Ramsey has asked for us all not to prematurely assume his guilt, as they (The Ramsey Family) know what that is like.

I know this is one sick man, and regardless of his guilt or innocence in this case, it is good that he is off of the streets and away from children.

I hope the DNA evidence will link him to the case, so that the Ramsey family can have peace and so that JonBenet and Patsy can rest in peace.

 
midwesterngirl
midwesterngirl

So, if this man is guilty and went to prison, who would be willing to have him as their pp?

 
skye
skye

That's a good ?.

It would be hard for me to write him, if in fact he is guilty. I don't think I could. I wouldn't be able to get past the mental images of seeing her story and pictures over the last decade.

But... that doesn't mean I think he should have noone, I hope someone out there would have a forgiving heart and could write him. Everyone deserves a friend.

 
smiley
smiley

Michelle puts her hand up....

My soul purpose in writing those behind bars is not to judge them based on any or all crimes, but put a hand out in friendship reguardless of what surrounds them. If that makes sense.
I believe EVERYONE should have at least someone. That is just my opinion and i know many differ and disagree and that is ok.

 
Xray48
Xray48

Quite frankly, I am very skeptical that this man did it. Where was the eveidence of his presence, at the crime scene, ten years ago? And there are those who say that he was in another state, at the time. I think that this guy just wants the noteriety, and the police are glad to jump on it, because they have looked like a bunch of bumbling fools and there are people who want their heads, on a platter, too.
Just my 2¢.

 
skye
skye

I feel that things just don't add up with him. I too think he just wants the media attention. I would certainly hope, that after the first portion of this investigation was done so awful that the ds's office would have enough sense to do this portion right.

But then again, they could have just jumped on the next best person.

We will have to wait and see how this plays out...

I certainly hope this man gets the help he needs because clearly things are not right for him

 
StarlightMoonlight
StarlightMoonlight

Personally, I do think the dude is demented, and needs some serious help.... But my ? is this.... Considering the utterly screwed up job the police did the 1st time around, don't you think that they would make damn sure they had enough evidence this time? I mean, if they botched this one too, Good God, they are complete morons, and EVERYONE will know it. No one will find them credible from here on out if this man proves NOT to be the killer.... Oh, and I heard today that apparently he stated in emails to a professer in CO, certain things about the way Jonbet's body was, etc, that was never released to the public. I guess we'll know more next week when they get him to the states. I have to agree with what John Ramsey said though..... Do not jump to concluions.

 
StarlightMoonlight
StarlightMoonlight

Got this from rocky mountain news....

E-mails a portrait of 'my darkness'
Messages to CU prof paint a disturbing picture of Karr

Text of an ode to JonBenet Ramsey in a 2005 e-mail believed to be from John Mark Karr to CU professor Michael Tracey. STORY TOOLS
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By Todd Hartman and Kevin Vaughan, © 2006 Rocky Mountain News
August 18, 2006
It was the day before Christmas Eve 2005 when John Mark Karr sent an e-mail to University of Colorado professor Michael Tracey, seeking a strange favor.
He asked Tracey to visit JonBenet Ramsey's old house in Boulder and read aloud an ode he called JonBenet, My Love.

"JonBenet, my love, my life. I love you and shall forever love you. I pray that you can hear my voice calling out to you from my darkness - this darkness that now separates us," it read, in part.

The e-mail was part of a small sample of the often lurid and disturbing correspondence between a person that investigators believe to be Karr and Tracey. The e-mails were obtained Thursday by the Rocky Mountain News from a source close to the investigation.

None includes any statements from Karr about his possible role in JonBenet's death. They do, however, include several interesting - and sometimes bizarre - exchanges between the two, including one in which Karr expresses concern that Tracey has obtained a photograph of him; another in which Karr said he was under federal investigation for "child murder and child molestation" in four states; and one in which the two traded views on the Peter Pan-related film Finding Neverland.

Karr was arrested in Thailand early Wednesday on a warrant naming him as the suspect in the unsolved murder of 6-year-old JonBenet in 1996. He is expected to be extradited to the United States next week.

In one of the e-mails obtained by the News, Karr brought up the legal travails of pop singer Michael Jackson, long under scrutiny for what seemed by his critics to be unusually close relationships with young boys.

"I will tell you that I can understand people like Michael Jackson and feel sympathy when he suffers as he has," Karr wrote. He added that he, himself, "is trapped in a world that does not understand."

The News reported exclusively Wednesday that Tracey and Karr have swapped hundreds of e-mails during a four-year span, and that it was the content of those e-mails that gave rise to Tracey's suspicions about Karr's potential involvement in JonBenet's killing.

Tracey, in turn, passed his concerns on to investigators working the case privately. They, in turn, would later take it to prosecutors at the Boulder District Attorney's Office.

Tracey declined to comment on the e-mails obtained by the News Thursday, and a statement provided by a CU spokesman said Tracey would continue to decline interview requests "until he feels the time is right."

"Tracey said it is important now that people respect the judicial process and make no judgments about the guilt or innocence of the suspect until more information is available," the CU statement said.

It also said that Tracey wants to resume writing a book about the 10-year-old investigation and is planning to produce additional documentaries on the case, beyond the three he has already completed.

In a related development Thursday, the Daily Camera reported that Tracey shared details of his research into the Ramsey case with students months before he alerted authorities.

The paper reported former students as saying that someone sent Tracey a childhood picture of himself holding a white Santa Claus teddy bear and purportedly taken on a Christmas morning. The stuffed animal was apparently just like the one that mysteriously showed up in JonBenet's bedroom and stumped the family and investigators.

One of e-mails obtained by the News began with Karr chiding Tracey for failing to respond to an earlier message entitled, "Pretty Little Boy."

That e-mail included what appears to be a back-and-forth exchange - a passage from Tracey and an answer from Karr. However, it appears that Karr took a Tracey e-mail and then inserted his answers after each paragraph.

At one point, Tracey wrote to Karr, "I'm also curious as to why you feel that talking to me is dangerous and that you have shared too much."

Karr wrote back: "I was the subject of at lease (sic) a four-state federal investigation for child murder and child molestation. These people were not finished with me when I left the U.S. I cannot return. Since you have never been through something like this in your own life, you cannot know the paranoia it causes. You mentioned you have access to my photograph after talking to you for at least two years. I have reason to be concerned. Consider, if you will, post-traumatic stress."

A later e-mail included "Resend of Pretty Little Boy" in its subject line.

Again, it appeared to include a back-and-forth exchange.

"This is a letter that was sent on October 10th," Karr wrote. "I have found that you are easily overwhelmed and, when so, you seem to stop responding altogether. That being said, I am also responding to your last mail and will prepare a short message for JonBenet for Christmas night. Please check your mail each day prior to Christmas. Don't stop responding now."

Karr then wrote about his anger that a third person had provided Tracey with a photograph of him. "You NEVER said he HAD a photo of me," Karr wrote. "This changes everything. You have everything but my name and fingerprints. This comes as a major blow. Why did you not tell me this in the past?"

At another point, Karr responded to Tracey's challenge to follow through on his pledge to be "intense and thorough."

"Oh, Michael," Karr wrote, "I was referring to you - not me. I AM intense and thorough. I wanted you to be more intense and thorough in your responses to me. Your desire from me is that I cut to the chase and be specific about locations, names and all the other elements that journalist (sic) look for in a story. I am sorry that this is not the way I express myself about this matter."

Karr wrote later that his father was a "strong influence but rarely around," and then responded to Tracey's question about whether his "fascination with little girls - which clearly has a strong erotic component - is a way of going back."

"Maybe I am not going back but have simply stayed consistent," Karr wrote. "My peer group has not changed since I was a little boy, and girls were the people I was with always. Referring to them as a peer group is somewhat incorrect, but might also be the very definition of what they continue to be in my life."

At another point, Tracey wrote, "You told me once that your mother tended to raise you as a girl. This must have had a powerful effect on your developing sexuality - confusion maybe?"

Karr responded: "Michael, I will not discuss my sexuality as if it is a psychological disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. In my case, I disagree with that totally, and if this is to be the way we progress in discussing it, I might as well stop while I am ahead.

"On the other hand, if you would like to learn something about my sexuality on an intellectual, nonjudgmental, nontraditional and nonpsychological way, I would love to share. It would help you understand a lot about my connection with JonBenet and possibly about the case. Shall we?"

Tracey also wrote to Karr about the movie Finding Neverland, which was about the author of Peter Pan.
"I can only say," Karr wrote, "that I can relate very well to children and the way they think and feel. I think you are asking if I am much a 'Peter Pan.' In many ways, the answer is yes. In other ways, I suppose it is no because I am trapped in a world that does not understand."

In his words

• Excerpts from e-mails written by John Mark Karr to University of Colorado journalism professor Michael Tracey:

"I am tortured mostly because of my present situation. I appreciate that you would refer to my childhood. It was unique . . . "

"I will tell you that I can understand people like Michael Jackson and feel sympathy when he suffers as he has. I do think that he is sexually attracted to certain children but could never divulge this. He made an attempt when he talked of sleeping with little boys but was completely misunderstood. I think he made an assertion and quickly had to back down. On the other hand, his comments might have had nothing to do with having the type of sex one might equate with the sense of the term, sex."

"Again, I was talking about you in reference to more intensity. The investigation was Federal. It involved four states. Knowing now that you have my photo, I am not keen on telling you of the specific states. I lost every friend, contact and family member as a result of this investigation. Some of my closest little girls were questioned by the authorities which broke my heart into pieces. I will never have contact with anyone in my past ever again. I lost my identity when this happened. This was the easy part. The worst was yet to come."

"I 'want' to tell you much though I cannot due to the fact that it has been revealed to me that you now know what I look like. This is a blow to our conversations and to my sharing. Had I known this earlier, I would have shared less - I am sure of it. With that said, I still responded to your mail in full . . .

"Sometimes little girls are closer to me than with their parents or any other person in their lives. When I refer to myself as JonBenet's Closest, maybe now you understand."

"I am interested in telling you anything that does not cost me everything as it did in the past."

Extradition policy

• The process for getting back an American citizen suspected of a crime, such as John Mark Karr, from a foreign country depends on the terms of the extradition treaty the United States has with it. "If we have a treaty with the country, it lays out the protocol in which you seek the return," said Bryan Sierra, spokesman for the Department of Justice.

• The United States does have an extradition treaty with Thailand, but it was not clear Thursday what the terms are.A formal request, either by the Department of Justice or the State Department, or sometimes both, would be made to the foreign country under the terms of the treaty.

• There had been no response Thursday to the Department of Justice's request to have Karr extradited. The decision on when the suspect is extradited is up to Thailand. "We're not the ones who have the control of the system," Sierra said.

 
Anonymous
Anonymous

Oh man, that guy looks freaky and perhaps was involved but I dont know because these wackos will confess to anything to get attention. So much of that case was exposed that he could have easily researched although I guess they are claiming he now has revealed details never before eposed to the media.

Forgive me but I STILL feel weird about the Ramseys. I NEVER liked all that sexing up of a 6 year old or 5 whatever she was to start..I mean the crap she was wearing in those beauty contests I could not wear at 17 or my mom would have killed me so it makes me feel weird and all sick inside.

 
erehwon
erehwon

I know exactly what you mean about those beauty pagents.............there was a documentary on them,before this child was murdered,it also featured her,I,m sure.
They were doing things like coming out an performing in glittery adult show style lit down the leg clothes,adult hairstyles,etc and one little girl,maybe her was singing "The moment he walked in the door....hey big spender "........in the most provocative way.
I was stunned and the people I met for lunch the next day were also commenting on it and how sick it was.I mean,these were small children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seeing them protrayed as alluring young ladies was strange and sickening.
The whole doco was.It was obviously all abouty their Mothers and their lost dreams or something similar,and lots of little girls bored and tired off stage,being pushed to their limits,and other siblings ignored by the Mothers by comparisson.
Children should be allowed and expected to be children,to talk and act like them. Lord knows,our childhoods are all too quick,anyway.
Well,sadly,it was for this poor child.

 
m2ollysmom
m2ollysmom

For whatever Karr's reason I think he is just saying he did it. I, too, still think Jon Benet was killed by some family member or they allowed someone else to kill her. I hope the truth comes out one day!

 
StarlightMoonlight
StarlightMoonlight

Well, they have DNA, so I can only assume that if they have DNA, they would have tested ALL family members by now to see if they matched, not only the dna left at the scene, but JonBete's DNA.... They can do tests to see if the 2 were related you know.... And after all this time, don't you guys think that John, his son, and whoever else would have been tested? My guess is they probably already have been.

 
Anonymous
Anonymous

I would assume so. I mean tested the entire Ramsey family DNA against what was found. But also I was wondering if the brother was ever checked because he would have been 9 at the time of the murder. Would there have been any issues about testing a minor's DNA and could the parents have said no if they wanted? I cant even remember back what all happened. Of course now he would be 19.