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teddyrupskin

Only in a state run by a Bush administration would they be looking for new ways to suppress inmates’ voices and take away one of their only positive influences. I can’t believe that they would be taking away outside contact from pen pals. Exactly who does this help? More importantly, who does it hurt? The people that chose to write them CHOSE to write them. Most inmates get released one day. How can an administration preach reducing recidivism and then one by one take away the things that help these people reform? WHY are they doing this?!


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GhettoBrats
 
GhettoBrats

You want to know whats really messed is that DOC wanting to take everything that they can from the inmates yet on some of the units that still allow hobby crafts and are in enclosed case or sold through an inmate store just on the road to the prison or on prison property is sold on consignment or if some of the guards in the property like what they see they will keep it for themselves and say it's either lost or something, but here doc wants to remove everything from the inmates. through the years I've received some beautiful gifts that was handcrafted by inmates like jewerly boxes,and such and a friend of mine received a picture frame an baby booties and it was made from cigarette packs. Some real nice things and I still have some of the horse hair that was made into those things that the men ware on their cowboy hats. Okay yes I know that I got off of the subject and I apologise but do you all know what I mean?

 
Susansback

The addresses and more details on the home page of this web site.

 
Susansback
 
Susansback
 
teddyrupskin
 
teddyrupskin
 
teddyrupskin

Well said lonewolf. Can we email our outrage on this subject somewhere or do I have to write them by regular mail? Oh and thank you for the details susansback! This is unbelievable!!!

 
Susansback
 
Susansback
 
Susansback

Yes, this happened in AZ too. It was taken to court and declared unconstitutional. The Canadian Coalition Against the Death Penalty took them to court and won. They are going to get involved with FL too. They are looking for legal representation and waiting for a response from the ACLU.

 
CJ_London
 
CJ_London
 
CJ_London

Thanks for letting me know. It sounds as though existing penpals will be OK, but it will be tough for new ones.

I think this law was tried in Arizona (?) but the courts deemed it to be illegal.

In any event I think it stinks.

 
Susansback
 
Susansback

This is what this about:

Florida Administrative Weekly Volume 29, Number 6, February 7, 2003

Specific Authority 350.127(2), 364.337(2), 364.604(5) FS. Law Implemented

364.337(2), 364.602, 364.604 FS. History–New 7-20-98, Amended 12-28-98,

7-5-00, ________.

DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS

RULE TITLE: RULE NO.:

Routine Mail 33-210.101

PURPOSE AND EFFECT: The purpose and effect of the

proposed rule is to ensure the protection of the public and the

maintenance of order in the institution by prohibiting inmates

from placing advertisements soliciting funds, goods or

services; by prohibiting inmates from entering contests or

sweepstakes; and by clarifying the prohibition against

conducting a business while incarcerated.

SUBJECT AREA TO BE ADDRESSED: Routine mail.

SPECIFIC AUTHORITY: 944.09 FS.

LAW IMPLEMENTED: 20.315, 944.09 FS.

IF REQUESTED IN WRITING AND NOT DEEMED

UNNECESSARY BY THE AGENCY HEAD, A RULE

DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP WILL BE NOTICED IN

THE NEXT AVAILABLE FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE

WEEKLY.

THE PERSON TO BE CONTACTED REGARDING THE

PROPOSED RULE DEVELOPMENT AND A COPY OF

THE PRELIMINARY DRAFT IS: Perri King Dale, 2601 Blair

Stone Road, Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2500

THE PRELIMINARY TEXT OF THE PROPOSED RULE

DEVELOPMENT IS:

33-210.101 Routine Mail.

(1) through (2) No change.

(3) No other items may be received through incoming

routine mail. If an impermissible item is found (other than

items of an illegal nature, the entire correspondence will be

returned to the sender pursuant to subsection (13)(11) of this

rule. For example, the following items are not permissible for

inclusion in or attachment to routine mail:

(a) through (e) No change.

(4) through (7) No change.

(8) Inmates shall not use correspondence privileges to

solicit or otherwise commercially advertise for money, goods

or services. For the purposes of this rule this includes

advertising for pen-pals; inmates are not prohibited from

corresponding with pen pals, but shall not place ads soliciting

pen pals. Inmates are prohibited from receiving

correspondence or materials from persons or groups marketing

advertising services, or from subscribing to advertising

services. Inmates who post ads or have ads posted with the

assistance of another person shall be subject to disciplinary

action.

(8) through (9) renumbered (9) through (10) No change.

(11)(10) No inmate shall engage in may establish or

conduct a business or profession through the mail during his

period of incarceration. For the purpose of this rule, a business

is defined as any revenue generating or profit making activity

or any activity having the potential to generate revenue or

profit. An inmate who is engaged in a business or profession

prior to commitment to the department shall assign authority

for the operation of such business or profession to a person in

the community within 90 days of commitment. Inmate

incoming or outgoing mail relating to the direction of an

inmate’s business or profession shall be rejected. This does not,

however, prohibit mail necessary to enable an inmate to protect

property and funds that were legitimately the inmate’s at the

time of commitment.

(12) Inmates shall be prohibited from entering contests or

sweepstakes through the mail while incarcerated.

(11) through (16) renumbered (13) through (18) No

change.

Specific Authority 944.09 FS. Law Implemented 20.315, 944.09 FS. History–

New 10-8-76, Amended 10-11-77, 4-19-79, 11-19-81, 3-12-84, 10-15-84,

Formerly 33-3.04, Amended 7-8-86, 9-4-88, 3-9-89, 9-1-93, 9-30-96, 5-25-97,

6-1-97, 10-7-97, 5-10-98, Formerly 33-3.004, Amended 12-20-99, Formerly

 
Susansback
 
libbiegrrl
 
libbiegrrl

CJ

Jeb Bush is introducing legislation is the state of Florida that would prevent inmates from posting for penpals on sites like Writeaprisoner etc. They would be subjected to punishment if caught doing so.

libbiegrrl

 
libbiegrrl
 
CJ_London
 
CJ_London

Could someone tell me what this is all about ? I have a penpal in a Florida prison, but I'm not sure what you're talking about here ?

Thankyou !

 
CJ_London
 
GhettoBrats
 
GhettoBrats

LoneWolf, You do have a way with words as you have addressed this issue, you are turley a spiritual person in the way you pour out in what you believe. You know you touched on this in every aspect, I myself will say that Florida will not get away with taking away everything we here in AZ have already fought this very issue and won, although inmates can not have web-sites in which we already know they the state can not take away the pen-pals.
One of the things that is said on a daily basis in the prison syestem amoung the inmates that I have come to know is that the state may have physcial custody, but they can not take away our minds and how we think no matter how hard they try nor will they break us of our spirits. I believe that the guards just don't want to be processing the in coming mail or actually be found working and getting paid all those big bucks to see that the prison runs smoothly.

 
GhettoBrats
 
Lonewolf
 
Lonewolf
 
Lonewolf

Jeb Bush has a retrograde personality disorder. It is a posh way of saying he is backward thinking. Inmates won't leave their term of confinement ready to successfully reintergrate with human society in positive ways without help. Being a Pen Pal gives is an undeserved gift given freely by enlightened member of society which makes it a true free will gift in every sense of the word.

A Pen Pal is not a paid psychologist doing a job. A Pen Pal is not a cell mate speaking with you because, circumstance requires you to endure each other's company. A Pen Pal enters your life by letter each time one is sent by mutual request because he or she honestly wants to be there to share a bit of themselves with you.

Having a pen pal gives the inmate a chance to have input and thus in some ways the smallest level of control over the course a conversation with another human being takes. All prisons are about the task of taking EVERY element of control od their life away from the inmate. Conversations in prison occur within the ugly context of the inmates environment thus the state really always has control.

Even the prison pen pal relationship is not totally immune to the constraints of the correctional institution. However the inmate and pen pal have a great deal of intellectual autonomy in shaping the exact nature, intensity and form of their pen pal relationship.

The final frontier of the imprisoned soul is that of heart and imagination. Pen Pal's sustain an inmates sense of heart and imagination. Pen Pal's enrich an inmates imagination by sharing joyful unpredictable events of their life with one whose life is a seemingly never ending string of utterly predictable monotonous pain.

In order to punish the inmate more effectively the state must perfect itself in its job of taking all the joy, imagination and sense of wonder from an inmate. Jeb Bush knows the last place of refuge in an inmates mind where his sense of self hides out is in his heart and imagination. If you want to take the last small hope from a man, then destory his imagination for the written word sets one free if only in their own mind. Next Jeb Bush hopes to mortally wound an inmates heart by removing from them those few individuals in society evolved enough to show caring about their situation as pen pals.

Forgiveness is seen only by example in the human heart. Those who merely speak of forgiveness utter words only. Those who give freely as pen pals act in a way that demonstrates forgiveness. Pen Pals are a warm humanizing light in the darkest heart and a boost to the ill used imagination even a penal institution can not easily corrupt.

You wanted to know WHAT MOTIVATES! Jeb Bush and those like him who want to take Pen Pal's away from inmates? Well simply stated they want to steal the last shred of joy, dignity, self worth, love and connectedness with society an inmate has with anything humane and good within himself. Some people think only by removing every shred of dignity from a person in prison punishment will they appriciate what it is to be a part of society if and when they are restored at time of release from prison. The old let's make prison so bad they never want to return theory.

Prisoner's need Pen Pal's more than almost anything else. Pen Pal's are the food of life to a sick or imprisoned mind. As one who is anti-social himself, I know having people in your life who are honest and caring is the only thing that has a hope of making you atleast social enough to live in society without hurting or taking from others.