I was just wondering: how do inmates, whoms families abandoned them and have no pp's who might send them some money every now and then get by? How do they pay for toiletries, food and other things? If they really have no one on the outside helping them, how do they manage?
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My guy used to 'hustle' before I started sending him regular dollars so he doesn't have to hustle ... look up 'hustle' on Google, you'll get an idea of how they do it and in what ways - my guy was real honest with me and he tells me how other guys 'hustle' with pen-pals, so be sure of him before you do send money, make sure he's not hustling you ;p
Some of them do have jobs that they get paid for, albeit not paid much... $2.75 a day. If you review other posts, there are limits on how much they can accrue in their accounts, how they pay restitution, etc.
You say that, but you're sending him 'regular dollars' so isn't he [I]hustling[/I] you.....?
[QUOTE=karleigh;997277]You say that, but you're sending him 'regular dollars' so isn't he [I]hustling[/I] you.....?[/QUOTE]
You said what i was thinking
Sidhe: sometimes they make art to sell... cards and such. That can be big biz, especially around holidays. I hear the cards in the canteens are crap. (I've gotten a few and they are, ha ha!...not what's written in them but the designs.) Also illegal tattooing is big biz for those who have the talent to do it.
Lots of ways.
I think in the end anyone can hustle anyone, you can still write your pal and send no money, but the pics youre sending he could still be trading for an extra snack. Just depends on how bad he wants the snack lol. He's just better at it..So I think it all comes down to one thing. Trust.
Nobody on this site is truly destitute, they either have savings of their own or someone on the outside to help them. WAP costs 40 bucks a year for the inmates.
Some inmates have a sponsored ad.....!
[QUOTE=karleigh;997277]You say that, but you're sending him 'regular dollars' so isn't he [I]hustling[/I] you.....?[/QUOTE]
No, he never asked me for money, I chose to send it - but its nice to see your clique back out in force, supporting your comment lol
He probably didnt need to ask you thats what a clever hustler do but then again its your life and your money. I bet he also tells you how amazing you are and what a great friend you are. And clique? What clique? I like the comment because I agreed with her and thought the same thing myself. I funny enough have my own brain and can think for myself :)
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I was thinking the same. You just never know for 100% sure. Me neither.
No need to go all drama here again, girls.
My pp has no-one but me and I am poor as s**t. I hardly ever send him money (did it for christmas though) and I know he is starving. The food in Arizona sucks. It's just a small amount, especially in the weekend. And even more when the guys workout a lot.
It makes me sad often. My pp doesn't hustle as far as I know.
I am about to send him 10 dollar today, that's all I can miss, but I do miss his letters.
That's really funny. :) God forbid I like a post..........
Man, that sucks to hear.... :( The same one that was sick, right?
No, I wasn't referring to you, I am well aware you think for yourself, you don't usually need back-up from the hardcore of beeches on here who seem to run these boards, so yes, I am aware you agree with her comment with independent thinking.
I think to fall back on the 'I bet he also tells you how amazing you are and what a great friend you are' is rather a cheap shot though - it could be said that all our pals say that to most of us right? But no, you are wrong, I am quite sure he's not hustling me, I don't need to prove why I think that on this board, as lets face it, the girly clique who run this will either post amusing dancing avatars or start beetching even more .. I do wonder how many people have been driven away by their antics huh? A lot from what I have seen so far. So no, I can't argue that you or anyone else who may feel that he is hustling me, that's your prerogative to think that - its rather sad how ya'll prefer to think the worst of everyone in prison who we write to - yet so many of you marry these guys or love them ... are we all hustled and conned then?
I write to 3 people, only 1 gets any cash out of me and I give it willingly and with care to help him - if he's hustling me, well done to him. If not, then I didn't waste my time having faith in someone and giving them a chance. Either way, I'm sure someone will knock what I have to say. Its all about knocking each other this place isn't it, run on spite, but that's what you get when lots of woman come together eh.
Yeah. But the tumor wan't malignant so that was the good news :)
But he still lost a lot of weight and he sure is hungry. I know he never asks me for money but he does speak his mind about the food there. I heard it on several places that it really sucks there. So sad. You know, in the weekend, they get a warm lunch and for dinner they get 2 sandwiches and a small bag of potatoechips and a cookie. That's it for the whole day! No breakfast as far as I know.
I am sure there are lots of people on here who would prefer if you personally would keep most of your unwanted opinions to yourself - but you are kinda like those flies that keep on buzzing around, choose how many times you are swatted, you just never go away ... I find very little of what you have to say funny to be honest, but hey, do your worst, did you not take your meds today girl.
OFFTOPIC AND SORRY FOR THAT
I do admit that there is so much drama on here lately. It would be so much better of we all tried to get along, we're here because we all share one important thing.
I also (like everyone) have particular people who I agree with the most, and some people that annoy me sometimes, but that's MY problem and I just ignore it.
Can we please try to be a bit more friendly towards eachtoher? We're all good people if you come to think of it, we all give the prisoners a second chance, we are sensitive, then whatfor the bullying?
Yeah, I seem to be their latest target Vixxxen000, I'm sure they follow me around just looking for stuff to jump on, disagree with and cause discord about. We are all here to share thoughts and its rather sad that a small few drive so many away as they cannot cope with the sheer childishness and nastiness that emanates from them when they don't agree with a thought.
Its a nice thought that we all try to be more nice to each other, that would make everyone's day nicer :) A nice post Vixen.
[QUOTE=Vixxxen00;997318]Yeah. But the tumor wan't malignant so that was the good news :)
But he still lost a lot of weight and he sure is hungry. I know he never asks me for money but he does speak his mind about the food there. I heard it on several places that it really sucks there. So sad.[B] You know, in the weekend, they get a warm lunch and for dinner they get 2 sandwiches and a small bag of potatoechips and a cookie. That's it for the whole day! No breakfast as far as I know[/B].[/QUOTE]
Wtf? wow...I can imagine it being extra hard, especially since he's lost a lot of weight.... :S Ah yes, I do remember that good news.HE's also the one thats getting out soon right?
Nah, Forget this. You know, I had actually typed up a reply to you, one that was civil and yet got my point across. And then I deleted it. Get one thing straight though, I didn't delete it because I can't take your shots at me, I deleted it because at [B]this very moment[/B]... It's not worth it. Not to mention, It's exactly what you want... ;)
If you want to start drama (which, you clearly do)...go start it with someone else....
Peace out.
[QUOTE=queenbella;997326]Nah, Forget this. You know, I had actually typed up a reply to you, one that was civil and yet got my point across. And then I deleted it. Get one thing straight though, I didn't delete it because I can't take your shots at me, I deleted it because at [B]this very moment[/B]... It's not worth it. Not to mention, It's exactly what you want... ;)
If you want to start drama (which, you clearly do)...go start it with someone else....
Peace out.[/QUOTE]
I dislike drama QueenBella, that's why I cringe every time I see your avi on a thread, you cause so much. Like you say, not worth the hassle, I can only hope that one day you go a step too far and you get banned, then the board can go back to what it should be, a place for all, to talk freely without retribution from your wee clique who seem to enjoy nothing but causing the drama you state so often you dislike...anyway...moving on now...but if you wanna keep following me around, go ahead.
Vixxen you made a good point bullying. Celticprincess launched a very personal attack on QB for liking a post and the only thing she has actually said in this thread is the reaction to the word clique in the same way as I reacted to it. Its totally unacceptable to say " did you not take your meds today girl." That is as personal as an attack can get especially to a person that only reacted to being told they belong to a clique and liking a post which she agreed on. CP you said yourself that you can understand why people think he is hustling so if you understand why attack its just silly?
You say her opinions are unwanted I am sure many will disagree with you. But its your opinion so you can think that. I have seen posts from you CP in the past and it does seem like you thrive on attention and the wrong kind of attention.
You might think its a cheap shot but if i put myself in a hustlers shoes I would tell the person giving me money that he/she is amazing too. It is your decision full stop your life your money I really couldn't care less no skin off my nose.
I personally would never allow anyone I consider a really good friend send me regular money ever no matter what situation I am in. If I got myself there then I deal with it in anyway I have to.
And as far as I am aware the only people running this forum is writeaprisoner staff themselves. This is a free forum people have the right to post their thoughts and if you cant handle them no matter who they are from then dont post simple as that.
And actually I want to stress that CP you seem to like drama or you would not attack the way you do or post the things you do. Fair play to QB for bowing out she came out the bigger person in this.
And if we talking about banning the PERSONAL unprovoked attack you made on QB is more bannable than anything I have ever seen QB post
Um hello? *kinda waves* maybe some people on here should speak for themselves, because I never said I consider Bellas post 'unwanted' because I don't, I actually think they are an utter enrichment to this forum. just wanted to straighten that out :o
At the jail my son is at, if they have no one, they are given their personal items once a month for a small charge thats added on the bill when they're released. I'm sure their are many that have been deserted by their family members because of the crime they've committed. Very sad!
theres also the world of drugs behind bars. i watched a documentary and its like a sub-culture. lots of money to be made if you are of high status within the prison walls.
Only 4 months.
But then it's even worse, with no backup (back to subject) as Arizona is that poor that they don't have enough counselours. He's pretty much on the street then :S.
Some prisoners really ARE ****ed because they don't have family. And, when they cut off their old life to become a better man, and no-one even sees it. Oh well, probably that's all part of being 'punished'. But to let people starve, in my opinion is really unhuman.
i agree, where's the love you guys/girls? like vixxen just said, we all have others who kinda annoy us but thats just that persons insecurities not the person they dont like. if all the prisoners today could fully grasp that concept im sure ill prisons would be half of what they are now. people just need to let people be themselves, and if someone doesnt like it...ignore that person, who cares. its not worth the fighting or anger because it can be hurtful to some.
just sharing my two cents :-) and you both make good points!
Ah yes. I remember we talked about him a while back. It really does suck that he will have no support system. I know that you wish you could do more! Btw, if you don't mind me asking, when he gets out, will he be on parole .. or... will he have completed his entire sentence?
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On parole.
Ehmm...why do you ask? Is there a difference?
Because either way he has to be (and wants to be) 'a good boy'.
I'll PM it to ya ;)
I know my man sometimes hustles, there's different types from drawing like the others mentioned to haircuts, and the bigger stuff. I get drawings on envelopes or cards and he pays them small fee or trades cookies enz
My PP's sentence was 5-10 years. After serving 5 years, she is going on parole, and will be on parole for 2 years. What that means is she has to perform all the activities on her task list (there are about 15 items). She has to check in once a week with her PO, she has to pay ALL of her restitution, she has to attend some classes, she is not allowed to travel out of state, not allowed to take a "vacation"; basically be a good little girl, and continue to be told what to do for the next two years. If she violates any of the provisions during the two years, she can be put back in to serve the rest of her sentence, which would be the other full 5 years.
I asked her jokingly - "You sure you don't want to stay and serve out the other 5?". If she serves the full 10 years, they let her out, she doesn't have to do anything except pay some of the restitution. No reporting, no classes, she is able to travel. She is free to do whatever she wants without worrying about somebody looking over her shoulder. And, they can't put her back in for violating anything... she would have to be charged, tried, convicted, and sentenced with a new crime in order to go back.
Of course, I am going to be there to make sure she doesn't violate parole.... if she does, she probably won't have to go... I'll end up there because I'd beat her butt for doing so!!!
I would think a lot of them would try and get a PP.
(Know I would)
To Quote Mark Twain: A stranger is a friend I have yet
to meet.
[QUOTE=celticprincess;997316]No, I wasn't referring to you, I am well aware you think for yourself, you don't usually need back-up from the hardcore of beeches on here who seem to run these boards, so yes, I am aware you agree with her comment with independent thinking.
I think to fall back on the 'I bet he also tells you how amazing you are and what a great friend you are' is rather a cheap shot though - it could be said that all our pals say that to most of us right? But no, you are wrong, I am quite sure he's not hustling me, I don't need to prove why I think that on this board, as lets face it, the girly clique who run this will either post amusing dancing avatars or start beetching even more .. I do wonder how many people have been driven away by their antics huh? A lot from what I have seen so far. So no, I can't argue that you or anyone else who may feel that he is hustling me, that's your prerogative to think that - its rather sad how ya'll prefer to think the worst of everyone in prison who we write to - [B]yet so many of you marry these guys or love them[/B] ... are we all hustled and conned then?
I write to 3 people, only [B]1 gets any cash out of me and I give it willingly and with care to help him[/B] - if he's hustling me, well done to him. If not, then I didn't waste my time having faith in someone and giving them a chance. Either way, I'm sure someone will knock what I have to say. Its all about knocking each other this place isn't it, run on spite, but that's what you get when lots of woman come together eh.[/QUOTE]
Right, i've only got to page 2 of this topic, and i'm laughing already. Yet another drama for fk all reason.
CP, i like you BUT
More recently, your posts have been making me question you as a person. For someone who is "very happily married", you have been posting that letters are the only thing that makes you smile, flowers/gifts you've recieved are the most precious things to you, yada yada. Curious as to how your marraige actually works, tbqhwy.
Cue your hubby coming on and ranting...but tbh, i couldnt care less. I just find your posts quite funny now and can't take them seriously.
OT!!
One of my guys has no family or friends, doesn't hustle. Works when he can, but currently isn't. The prison support him to a certain extent, providing the essentials like toiletries and writing material. Apart from that, he's eating what's dished up, doesn't have a tv or extras like some others but the only thing he says he misses from time to time is a decent cup of coffee!
That quote really stands out for me...that is absolutely true. My guy will never accept me sending money or anything for that matter...it is all embarrassing to him.
Jeeez people, all I wanted to know was how they got by in prison with no family supporting them, not whoes having the latest catfight with one another......chill and make yourself a cup of tea will ya, it helps!
Just been talking about this with another member. See if you can find the handbook for the prison, if they have one online. They usually have it detailed with what(if anything) they can have provided for them
I wonder how many posting on here would survive on the inside, especially in a Texas prison where they are forced to work with no pay. I think some of those pointing fingers here would be hustling their little butts off. I think the average inmate pay in the last statistics I saw, excluding Texas, was 38 cents an hour, or less than $15 per week and that includes the guys/gals working in fire camps in the Western States. I know some of my PP do laundry or artwork or poetry to get stamps or hygiene items. Others work two or three prison jobs to get money for necessities.
Yeah maybe there are a few in prison who hustle people on the outside, I know I have one who tries almost every day with calls from a Federal Institution but I can hear her hustling people on the inside too even while she is on the phone with me, but she is the rare exception rather than the rule.
As for CelticPrincess, I am confident that no one gets the hustle over on her. She may be feisty and a little naughty, but she ain't stupid.
I have been "hustled" (or attempts made) by a far larger percent of people on the outside than people on the inside. In fact I have now had eight different people, mostly from West Africa who have gotten my name from this site and tried their little scams.
Just because more than one person liked Karleigh's comment doesn't mean there is a clique. "Like" usually means either a) I agree with you or b) that was amusing. You seem to have your :kissass: as well so I don't know why you should be calling anybody else out.
I don't even know who this clique is, but i liked Karleigh's wee dancing thing cause it was cute haha.
Nonetheless, it's tiresome. People might throw bait, but no-one forces each other to take it.
I don't know if I'd be able to survive in a Texas prison, thats for sure. My PP from down south has written to me about the labour they do, outside, in the heat of summer, and it made my feel faint just thinking about it. Definitely takes a lot of strength to stay positive and he has positivity and optimism in spades. He is also very proud and refuses any help or money, even though I would mind sending him a few dollars here and there.
Unless you have gone through something and had your mettle tested I don't think any one of us can say for sure what we can and cannot bear. M says that despite the hardships he has found that he is much stronger than he ever thought he was. I know that he has grown as a person and he says that he has learned a lot about compassion and other people's suffering since he has been in. Hopefully that isn't the heat getting to him. ;) Lord knows that the thought of 38C makes me want to melt into a puddle and die. For me anything above 28C has me fearing my brains are about to broil.
[QUOTE=queenbella;997326]Nah, Forget this. You know, I had actually typed up a reply to you, one that was civil and yet got my point across. And then I deleted it. Get one thing straight though, I didn't delete it because I can't take your shots at me, I deleted it because at [B]this very moment[/B]... It's not worth it. Not to mention, It's exactly what you want... ;)
If you want to start drama (which, you clearly do)...go start it with someone else....
Peace out.[/QUOTE]
Queenbella in my opinion you really are a drama queen and take everything so personally and then you go on the offensive. I have not liked your personal attacks upon several people including those on me. Perhaps you should stop attacking those you disagree with and stick to the topics at hand. This forum should not be used for venting your anger at those you do not like. Also in my opinion it should not be a matter of taking sides here against one person or another but expressing ones own opinion on the thread subject matter. While you have a lot to offer in many of your posts, I ask you please to keep from going after people personally.
Thank you, could of not said it better myself.
Unfortunately I think you proved the point that CP has been under attack by a few people here and I think your personal opinion of her is way off base. I personally thought from your previous posts that you had more class than to join QB in her personal attacks.
[QUOTE]As for CelticPrincess, I am confident that no one gets the hustle over on her. She may be feisty and a little naughty, but she ain't stupid.[/QUOTE]
Lest anyone have any doubt, this comment that I made was NOT in any way intended to be a negative about the character of CelticPrincess. I should have chosen a more internationally correct word than "naughty". I would have been better to use the word "mischievous" which according to Webster's Dictionary is the meaning of "naughty" as I used it.
LOL, I like the way you think.:yup:
Excuse me are you serious? read back and you will see that all QB did was liking a post! I liked it too so how come some people can agree with Karleigh and others cant. And also if you read on you will see that CP made a personal attack on QB for saying god forbid that she liked a post.
Does that really warrant a post asking if QB forgot to take her meds? So I wanna know where QB went after CP personally in my view and i can read its the other way around. CP started the talk about cliques not QB!
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I will tell you the exact same thing I told CP: [/B]
Nah, Forget this. You know, I had actually typed up a reply to you, one that was civil and yet got my point across. And then I deleted it. Get one thing straight though, I didn't delete it because I can't take your shots at me, I deleted it because at this very moment... It's not worth it. Not to mention, It's exactly what you want...
If you want to start drama (which, you clearly do)...go start it with someone else....
[B]Peace out.[/B]
Someone has called a person out now they are
upset.
(ps. if you have a problem with me think we
can work it out) without the Mods OK.
actually the only person that has been called out here is CP who launched a personal attack on someone who only liked a post. Others have said more that QB has including myself so i dont get why QB is getting the **** for this. I hope the mods reads what CP said to QB its out of order and is more a bannable post than I have ever seen QB post.
Oh and SCD look at post number 41 you liked it so why the change of heart now?