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thesekeys

Hey, ya'll. Need some advice here.

 

So I've been talking to this inmate on and off for a about 8 months.. he sent me an email this morning saying he has been offered early parole and will get out on August 1st "if i can get the filing fee for all the paper work and the home placement but if i cant get the money tey are going to tke it from me and im going through alot in my head because i dont got any way to come up with the money and if i dont get it i will halfto do at the least 12 ore months. 
the fees are 75$ total they are two one for the home placement and one for the parole officer.
its 25$ for the home placement and its 50$ for my parole officer."

 

Does this sound reasonable to you all? I might be able to help him if this is a legitimate situation, but I really don't know enough about the way parole works to be certain. Hoping some of you can provide some insight. He generally seems trustworthy, but he is always asking for cash, and I'm just wondering if this is perhaps an extra clever scheme to procure some funds. Thanks for any feedback. 

 

 


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annemariehh

He made a mistake. Prison stuff . He almost lost the girl he loves it would never happen again

 
LotusBlossom

Ha, my loved one and I were just discussing those fb and types of chat sites the other day.  He’s seen it before, a guy hanging his head at the phones getting yelled at for having more than one pen pal/friends other than his gf.  My loved one suggested to those guys to keep record of the correspondance so they can show it as proof if it begins to ruin an actual relationship they’re invested in.  Good idea to keep your information as private as can be, because the more people know about you, the more they can try to hurt you for their own amusement or gain.  A bit odd how the “other woman” who didn’t even know what the story was in the first place would get looked down on, instead of the gentleman was who the one misleading both parties, how does that help him learn how to not do it again, but I suppose that’s their business to figure out.  As for us, we’ll steer clear of all that noise and just trust each other the old fashioned way and respect each other enough to make adult decisions.

 

 
Been_on_the_inside

@cleo may she just doesn’t have any self respect for others all herself sometimes people just lack class or education on who to treat people, speak to people, or how they want to be treated, I think sometimes you make excuses for people you love and project that on to others, if your pointing the finger and sitting in judgement on others it deflects on people judging you. You wouldn’t do that cleo cause you have a good heart and care about how people are treating that’s a something you should never loose :-) 

 
Cleopatraaaa

Ooh, I don’t think I could be with a man who’d be willing to use another woman to gain whatever he needed even if he loved me more and was truly devoted

 
annemariehhh

Agreed totally @northern
Its just a last ditch attempt to cause some trouble..and interesting to see who jumped right into the middle of it with therir boots blacked..

Don t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya B7.
Pity another certain person doesn t fuck right off too

 
annemariehhh

B7..I think i know of what you speak...

but no.matter. The situation that i got involved with the guy is in a genuine loving relationship with a wondeful beautiful friend of mine.the guy is ok but the reason he wrote to a 2nd female was to try to.obtain something that he wanted..he had no feelings for this 2nd female, the whole thing caused pain. But the 2nd female was genuinely and honestly a 3rd wheel he knows it was wrong to try to use the 2nd girl for " things" . His relationship with the girl he truly loves is solider than ever. It was a situation that was best nipped in the bud..and if this WAS you ..then he was never interested in you or writing to you, he misguidedly wanted things. Simple as that..!

 
Northernyank

My apologies @B7 that I miscontrued what you intended to say. The follow up was much clearer. I am very protective of my husband and our marriage, for that I'm not apologetic.

Thanks @ST4s He was a very, very happy accident. It's funny all of my pen-pals with the exception of the kid who is a lifer are getting out in the next couple of years. I wanted to be able to get to know and write with someone for a longer period of time. Every time I logged on to look at profiles, his kept coming up.....and well the rest is history. 

 
ST4s

...if our intentions are genuine.

 
ST4s

I think all points of view are welcome, and healthy, whether they're similar or on opposite sides of the universe. That's what I like about this place. I don't have to agree with anyone, but you can sure bet I'll learn something, and I’ll support anyone’s right to speak their mind. I think questions and doubts are welcome. I think position papers are welcome too. That’s kind of the point around here, isn’t it? I don’t like it when people trash one another on here though. Disagreement? AOK fine by me.

Fair warning though: if you want to trash my friends on the inside, honorable men all, I'm gonna defend them to the bitter end, ten times out of ten. @Been nailed it - there are plenty of other places to go if you want drama or hate.

For those who’ve found love through this place, the true, singular, and romantic kind, I think they might just be the luckiest people in the world. Damn the impossible obstacles and challenges, I think their courage and strength is an inspiration to us all.

I’ve found love through this place too, the brotherly kind, and it was definitely not expected - I just thought I might be a friend. I’ll tell ya though, it was (and still is) a frickin’ mindblower. I don’t think any of us are defective or flawed for writing or wanting to write to prisoners. I think we’re brave and exceptional - each in our own way, and each for our own reasons.

 
B7

Jesus here we go again, maybe try and read what had actually been written, not what you want to see just so you can have a go at people! @northernyank

I never at any point said people inside aren't deserving of love, if you read back you will see that. If you knew me you would know I would be the LAST person to suggest something so ridiculous. I also at no point said there was something wrong with women or men IN relationships with people inside. What I was trying to say, is that I have a real issue with women coming on here and using it as some kinda dating platform, this isnt the place for that. There are apps for that purpose specifically. Writing to someone for friendship and then it turning into something more, is another kettle of fish entirely. I know that this does happen, and in a few cases it actually works long term, for those that this works for, I congratulate and wish all the best. My issue is not with those cases. It seems there are women who come on here actively seeking relationships, then bitch and moan when they get burned or scammed or find out who they are writing to is writing some one else. These are the people I have an issue with. Apologies if that wasnt clear, hope it is now. I knew after I had posted my last 'last' post that it wouldnt come across right hope it has now.

Peace out 4 real this time y'all.

 
Cleopatraaaa

@B7 aw shucks, thank you for the kind words! I’d love for more people with the right intentions writing to more inmates! There’s a lot of great guys and girls locked up who have a lot to offer in terms of friendship! Definitely agree that boundaries need to be set up and to always go with your gut! Learnt that the hard way haha but we don’t need to rehash that whole saga.

I will say though that, even though I’m only in this for friendship, I still think that inmates can and should be allowed to be in relationships with whoever they want. Like, if I wanted to get into a relationship with my pen pal (HYPOTHETICALLY) it’d be because he’s a great guy, I’m attracted to him and I have feelings for him, not because I can’t get a man out here. I totally can date whoever I wanted to, so I don’t think it’s fair to attach some kind of stigma to women and men who date inmates. They’re people too who deserved to be loved and cherished just as much as anyone on the outside. My two cents :)

 
Been_on_the_inside

@b7 hey thanks for that, I don’t want the drama your right I just wanted to stop happening what’s happened to you, there are plenty of groups you can go and bring down inmates here’s not the place. It’s a shame you won’t be here anymore I hope you reconsider. Don’t let anyone push you out I really hope all works out for you. 

 
Northernyank

@B7 glad to see you go for 2 reasons. 1. People incarcerated deserve to be in loving, healthy relationships, and yes, even married. 2. Nothing, and I do mean nothing is wrong with either men or women who fall in love with someone inside. 

 
Kirsten

[QUOTE]If I could go back and change how I handled the whole situation, I definately would.[/QUOTE]

Well, you still might, should you wish to do so. There isn't anything wrong with saying: "Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I read some stuff on the net that got me scared and I let myself being guided by fear. Since you're not responsible for my feelings, I just want to apologize and I'll leave it up to you to accept it and write on or to accept it and not write on or to not accept it and not write on. Basically, I just wanted to tell you that I didn't want to cause any hurt and I'm regretting that I did."

Something along these lines... Sometimes ppl are generous, you know. And sometimes people who themselves know the need of forgiveness and acceptance first hand very well, are even more generous, despite their feelings having been hurt.

If I were you and if I liked the person as a person, I'd just say sth. like this.

Anyway, do as you please, and if you act like you said, i.e. not coming back on here, you won't read it anyway.

Just thought I might reply because even though I'm not a drama queen I made mistakes myself (yes, also while corresponding with inmates.*wink*) Acknowledging them helped a lot.

 
B7

I haven't been on here since the day all the drama on this thread originally broke, cant believe it's still around. I've watched it all unfold and remained silent about it all but I came on today, as this is the first chance I've had to deactivate my account etc as I no longer need it. I've decided to put my 2 cents in before I go. Anyone who doesn't like what I'm saying - tough! It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it, you dont need to like it or agree. Save your breath with responding arguments, as I wont see them anyway, won't be back on.

This post isn't about continuing drama, christ knows theres already enough of that on here.

I would like to offer my take on this situation, in the hope it maybe helps someone else who is unsure about writing or maybe at the very least, offer an alternative perspective on these scam threads. Maybe it will help someone else avoid making the mistake I did. These posts and others like it do nothing but put fear and doubt into peoples minds and put people off writing altogether. Rather disappointingly, this is exactly what I allowed to happen with me.

Off the back of posts on this thread, I cut contact with a person that had actually done nothing to me. I had never sent him anything - money or otherwise and he had never asked me to. Never wanted anything from him other than to write and he never asked for more than that from me. I was aware he was writing to other people as he told me this personally, I thought that was a good thing (the more people you have to talk to on the outside the better, right!? So many people on here seem to think that they own who they write too, that folks on the inside should only write to one person exclusively. Get a grip of yourselves!) I came on here looking for advice on a different issue and saw this thread. It totally tipped me over the edge and sent me off the deep end! I know it did for others too like Cleo, who was also brave enough to admit it had filled her with worry and doubt. Instead of looking at the facts I knew to be true (stated above) I 100% convinced myself that everything these people were saying must be true and that there was some angle or scam I was missing, despite seeing no evidence off it in the writing with him.

Now that time has passed I can see I did the wrong thing. Instead of talking to him about it and hearing his side, I just shut it down. I realise overall, obviously I'm the only person responsible for my decisions, so obviously I'll own it and hold my hands up and say I got this wrong in a big way! If I could go back and change how I handled the whole situation, I definately would. I made this decision based on random comments other people had made and I based it solely on worry and panic from what I had read on this thread! I never asked for any details, cause frankly they dont matter and I never joined any group as I dont have Facebook. Solely, this thread was enough to send me into full scale meltdown and doubt everything I knew to be factual truth. Anyways, it's done now, gave this whole writing thing a shot and it didn't work out - you live and learn! The only saving grace, is that I know there's at least one person on here who did what I should have done and is still writing to him, so that's makes me feel better knowing at least he didn't lose everyone.

My point is that for anyone new to this or thinking of writing - DO NOT be put off by what you read on this forum - better yet stay off it altogether, I wish I had. Just focus on what is said between you and whomever you choose to write - ultimately that is all that is important and all that matters! Don't take other peoples drama in and let it affect or influence you or your decisions. Write with an open mind and make sure it remains that way. Use only your own judgement and not other peoples, base things on how things are between you and who you write, not how things are with others. Don't let what others say cast doubt over what you know and convince you of things that aren't true in your situation.

There are folks on here like: Kirsten, Cleo, been, st4, Kate Andrews etc that are not into drama and instead give insight and info that is worth its weight in gold. I wish I had come at this with the perspectives that most of you offered when commenting on this! It would have had a very different outcome if I had. But what's done is done, lesson learned for the future!

I'm sorry if this upsets anyone but you people on here looking for relationships with guys on the inside need to go away, 'cause your 'relationship' drama bullshit is ruining it for the rest of us who want nothing more than just to write. Theres a time and a place to find what you're looking for - this ain't it. Maybe ask yourselves why it is you cant meet a guy on the outside!? I've said my piece, so I'll leave it now and let anyone who has more to say argue amongst themselves. Hope someone can take something useful from this perspective or learn a lesson from it.

All the best to everyone and those you are writing to. Take care of yourselves and each other.

 
MG65

Justagirlie: The orignial poster was Ajaj1919 and she didn't come back to drop an email; however, Sunshinelady and some other people did. Unless the original poster decided to make another WAP account? Idk, just an observation--a sketchy one at that. 

 
Justagirllie

 

@MG65 & @Kirsten 

I spoke to the original poster a very beautiful & kind person... & another two posters on email about Mr Jones. (I left my email address on here ((it later got deleted by forum staff)) & they contacted me on it) 

We were able to swap screenshots of our letters from Mr Jones to each other. Then when we joined the scamming site on FB. There were more women who had come to light with more screenshots of more letters. 

Just so you know. 

 

 

 

 
ST4s

To the central thesis floating around: keeping folks on the inside safe and keeping folks on the outside safe - check out Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. It establishes safety as fundamental to the human condition (if you’re a disciple of Maslow, that is, but I’d say he’s onto something). So, it’s universal. Everyone wants it. All I’m hearing about safety in general on here is earsplitting agreement.

But for one group to hoard this fundamentally desired thing at the expense of others, deserved or undeserved? That’s not justice; that’s revenge. But there’s evidence of red-handed scammers, they say. Okay then, so don’t be a vigilante. Get it to law enforcement. Prison = law enforcement. Keep that Maslow thing fully intact. Everyone wants to be safe, right?

Here endeth today’s public service announcement.

And on a sidebar note: you have to acknowledge that accusations and scandal are great for selling newspapers too, and getting eyeballs onto other forms of media. Witness how many hits these things get on WAP when everyone’s busy lobbing grenades. Oh, and mea culpa. It’s like watching a train wreck, both cheerless and fascinating.

But here’s the thing: y’all have some truly important information and perspective to share at other times too, and you’re very good at that. Thank you. Really. It has been and continues to be very helpful. Writing to folks in prison is not the easiest thing in the world sometimes, and other times, it’s the most mind-blowingly awesome thing in the world (ask me about the true-blue, lifelong friends I’ve found through this place). Here’s to everyone tipping that balance!

 
Kirsten

Does anyone have to defend himself or herself just because of what others might believe, if an impression they might or might not get is not corrected?
 

 
annemariehhh

I m perfectly happy to ignore him Kirsten believe me on that..but he just does not stop spreading lies and insults about me..i have really tried to ignore him..but there comes a point when everyone must defend themselves otherwise the sheeple that follow him believe his BS..i ignored him on a thread and he kept on and on posting saying..oh no answer annemarie? Oh silence...and the such like..but you have my word from now on i will ignore him..but it might be nice if others see him posting inflammatory stuff that THEY tell him to stop

 
laurawestern8

I'm new to this and I don't know all that's going on but I respect the view and the things @been as said I think a lot of people do? from what I can read @frankiebones also as a lot of clear views and good points about a lot of things also @Kirsten seems very in the middle and just as the right reasons for having penpals I think it's amazing you give up your time to write so many. I don't think that those people should be shot down for voicing how they feel or called names and I'm not just talking about people I mentioned many people have good advice. but I do get there are just a few that are here for the wrong reasons.

 
Kirsten

@MG: Actually, there were two of each (ppl naming inmates and inmates being named). One has been removed, one has not.

I did not say @Annemariehh that you were one of them. I know you only posted a link to this FB group , but I still find the action in itself questionable, as well as I find the purpose of that group questionable, though originally well- intended. But that's just me and as I said before: No one has to agree with me on that one (or on anything else, for that matter.

As for you and been on the inside: Actually, neither of you would have a reason to hate one another. You're both just not stopping, that's all. As long as each of you accuses the other one being a bully, thereby playing the blame game, this will never stop.

Both of you seem to be afraid to lose their face or to look weak or to give in to a perceived injustice when just stopping to react. Ignore one another and mind your own business each, then there'll be no harm done. 

But as long as each of you is in the "Oh, what is s/he going to say next? I've got to defend myself!"mode, this isn't gonna stop.Ever.

So someone (and I'm not sure if either of you is capable of doing it right now), has to let go of the defense mode, of the "having to react to the other one" to stop.

But it takes courage to do so and to not fall into the old pattern again.

Wish you luck and let's see if we have one or two courageous one(s) on here,

  Kirsten 

 
annemariehhh

Hi MG..I don't actually remember anyone naming.names..but maybe I missed that post...

 
MG65

@Kirsten: Interesting that you mention how the original poster from a few weeks ago who named an inmate never posted again. The person who dropped a name on here also never came back to talk to anyone or even mention another word. Other people left emails and stuff but I guess the agenda had been fulfilled on her part. 

 
annemariehhh

Despite the rumor started by " been" i have never named anyone..I posted the link for anyone who may be interested..again..that is a personal choice for everyone..if they are interested..go look..if not..then don't..simple as that.." been" hates me and the feeling is mutual..look where ya all want you will never see me jumping his threads to cause trouble but he does it to me on a daily basis. I truly wish he'd leave off but I am not ..ever..gonna let him bully me..because thats what he is..a bully..who likes nothing better that to surround himself with a mob and he throws stones from the centre. I asked hom to e mail me in good faith to see if we could come to some compromise for the issues..i gave him my true e mail address...he reacted by starting more fear and rumors about the dangers of e mailing..why? Cos without his mob of sycophants backing him..he's scared .as Frankie said..a throw away e mail is easy to open..just for that purpose..call yourself donald duck or whatever if you genuinely have trust issues..but he won t face me....i m not afraid to stand alone..i m neither a bully or a cowatd..he is

 
Kirsten

@Justagirlie: I know you haven't been naming names, but someone else did. And I think it's just as unfair as scamming, no matter who does either one. There's a reson, why there are terms of service here, you know? ;-)

As for@annemarie and @Been: I never had trouble with any of them, so I'm not goin' to take sides. Imo, they both acted a little... childish on various threads and occasions and both said pretty helpful things on other ones. But that's just me and no one has to see it or feel about it the same way. So, generally I stay out of fuss, do my own business and lend an ear or hand when asked or when I think I can.

To get btt (back to topic) again: Basically, I think we (all the ppl - inside or outside) are vulnerable to some extent. Both can hurt and be hurt. When choosing ppl to write I usually went with my gut feeling, chose ppl whose ad spoke to me and let the connection develop itself. I'm not writing to everyone still I ever wrote to, but I never have been scammed by anyone. I did (and do) send money occassionally, but neither big amounts nor on a regular basis.

And I do see (this goes @Been in post #  54 of this thread) how rumors might hurt and harm people. Truth is, prison rumors caused a huge conflict between me and one of my pp. We took a pause from writing to each other and I'm not sure whether we'll be able to pick it up again and go to were we were before in our conversation. 

He got transferred, which is basically good (lower security level), but then he wrote me about rumors going on in that facility and what they were all about. Basically, our viewpoints on how to deal with such kinds of rumors differed so vastly that it caused a conflict and a break in writing to each other (which we had done for several months smoothly before). We've written one letter back and forth since the break (which took half a year almost), but I'm unsure of how this will go on.

So, basically, yeah, when you speak of rumors and their possible destructive effects, all I can honestly say is: "Yeah, I hear you on that one."

And I like to give ppl the benefit of doubt, trusting until they prove the opposite to me. 

And I don't think that the purpose of a group of ppl writing to inmates should be to... well, name names.

If anyone thinks such a FB group is worth it, go for it. I would not and I'm thankful for terms of service which forbid it on this forum.

There was another one a month or two ago named on publicly here. Thankfully this thread has been removed (by someone of the staff, I suppose) and since then I never saw another post (or thread) by the user who wrote it.  

 
annemariehhh

My name is ANNE MARIE THICKHEAD NOT..NEVER WAS ANNA MARIE..GEEZ what a jerk...

 
annemariehhh

Justa girlie...he's tripping...he won t e mail me cos he's a fake and a coward who likes causing trouble. Funny thing is...anyone who is unaffected by scamming and scammers needn t get excited...this dudes just a lunatic..

 
Been_on_the_inside

Want my picture babe? Want to take me in to your inbox? Will I be your first? Is this a scam to find out who I am so you can blackmail by brother who’s in prison? Do you think I’m stupid? Do you think I’m gonna put him at risk for you? Let’s see who you are? Let’s see who your husband is? Or do you wanna just get me alone? I ain’t playing your games not now not ever? Say what you like call me what you like, I won’t be bullied by you ever or blackmailed by you ever, 

 
Been_on_the_inside

Oh she’s changed it again I see wow that’s cause she once again got blocked from the site my mistake I don’t give a fuck what her name is she doesn’t have a husband in prison, she’s not who she said she is full stop so what the fuck does it matter what anyone calls her let’s just see what happened now. 

 
Been_on_the_inside

Oh so her names not Annamarie? Oh what name should I call her? You seem to know? 

 
Justagirllie

he won’t Annemarie he can’t even get your name right keeps calling you Annamarie. 

 
Been_on_the_inside

Ha ha ha ha your funny so funny ha ha ha 

 
annemariehhh

"Been" why don t you show your face? Both of them lol. Man up e mail me
Annemarieharris90 [at] googlemail.comrel="nofollow"

Lets see who YOU really are...

 
Been_on_the_inside

Sorry I misunderstood, oh wow that’s all I can say.

 
Justagirllie

baby blue eyes.... You’re 100% right 

 
BabyBlueEyes

She’s with another inmate at the same prison as Andrew. Not my man lol. Sorry for the confusion.

 
Been_on_the_inside

Hi babyblue I’m confused is the girl who sold her story to the press now with another inmate as the same prison as the guy who scammed her? Or was she with your man? Sorry If I’m miss understanding? 

 
BabyBlueEyes

I see both sides to this.

I have noticed people who originally said “don’t send it, it’s a scam” then changed their mind to, it’s totally different if someone is upfront and says hey, can you shoot me 30 bucks? Isn’t that basically what this person said? So it’s either one or the other.

I do think inmates who scam people should be held accountable. Not only to warn others not to write to them but also it’s a complete misuse of the pen pal service. No one deserves to be played like that. 

However, I don’t think helping out occasionally can be seen as a scam. Prison is hard, they don’t earn nearly enough to cover the basics plus postage, phone calls etc. I’d be wary if it was a regular payment though, then they could see it as a wage.

As for the Chelsea article, I remember reading it when it hit the press and I felt sorry for her. Andrew was in the same prison my man was at the time so it hit home. Some things didn’t add up though... Anyway, I no longer feel sorry for her since she’s now with another inmate in the same prison as Andrew. I think that speaks for itself. 

 
Justagirllie

MG65 I said ‘over and out @beenontheinside. I was replying back to the lady. 

Do you have anything useful to add or do you just enjoy trolling people and causing problems. Shut your face.  OVER AND OUT TO YOU :) 

 
Been_on_the_inside

Never mind inmates I’m kinda feeling it for people in Mumbai right now anyone living in that country I’m really sorry for those remarks above. 

 
Been_on_the_inside

So she had a baby with someone then cheated with a prisoner on her guy probably took away the right to watch his child grow full time and be a full time father and then sold her story to the press for money, oh nooooo we can’t look at it that way so sorry poor her she got scammed she had all her own choices take away by the evil inmate that what you y’all wanna hear right, she might of been a victim by that inmate but she also made that child and her baby daddy a victim. 

 
Been_on_the_inside

This is about power nothing more and y’all have the power to sit behind a computer screen and say whatever you like behind a computer screen about a person who cannot defend themselfs, it’s one thing talking to someone you have been wronged by and another having power over them, the thing is I can see those inmates are being victimised by you I can’t see any prof what so ever you are by them. Your a bunch of bullies that wanna get a man shames cause he cheated Nothing more, the reason you have to keep changing you name Annamarie is cause this site keeps blocking you for your behaviour show your face let’s name and shame you.  

 
annemariehhh

Anyone in any doubt how much pain being scammed courses ---read this

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/british-mums-agony-after-falls-13212309

 
annemariehhh

Anyone in any doubt how much pain being scammed courses ---read this

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/british-mums-agony-after-falls-13212309

 
MG65

I thought you were "over and out."

 
Justagirllie

Kirsten. I never named names. Somebody on here did and that’s how I found out. If I can stop that happening to another person. It’s worth it to me. 

 
Been_on_the_inside

@kirsten it’s not just about sticking up for inmates I know there are inmates out there that are total assholes, I wouldn’t say hurt more a little afraid cause I’ve seen first hand what can happen to inmates when storytelling happens, I’ve seen a lot of violent crimes inside prison and more then half are started with information that’s come from the outside and it’s not been correct or true. It’s very very different rules inside to outside, dudes hear things in there and they don’t wanna know facts they wanna make a name for themselves to make their time easy so the slightest thing said out here true or not can get someone killed in there and I’m being honest. But it’s not just that Kirsten that worries me I’ve known guys leave prison and cause they have had time to think about things and let it stir and build they come out and go looking for people that fucked them over while they were in, I know this is probably hard for you to believe and it’s rare but it happens some of those guys have nothing to loose They can’t handle being out and have no fear of going back in at any cost. I’m always gonna be a little more defensive about prisoners cause I know that most just wanna do time and go home without any shit and are good people  but it’s not always about just protecting them, I guess you can take the dude out of prison but not the prison out of the dude lol cause this whole snitch thing doesn’t weigh well with me. 

 
Kirsten

@Been: Always appreciated your opinion, always will, bc I think you've got a unique perspective to add.

I can realize that it is important to you to stand up against generalization and prejudice and be advocating for inmates and inmate's rights.

What I don't get sometimes is why you dive in so deep sometimes that it sounds to me like both being hurt and get hurting at the same time.

Is it really necessary to do it that way to bring forth what you've got to share?

As for naming names of inmates or ex-inmates here: Sorry, I don't think it's fair. No, not even towards scammers.

Now, you could say scamming isn't fair, either, which is true. But in all honesty: Where's the use of it? How does name dropping change behavior? Does it at all? 

I don't believe that answering one kind of unfairness with another kind of unfairness will bring on anything good for anyone.

And I think someone should inform WAP staff about this violation of their terms of service.

 
Been_on_the_inside

No I’d get over it and move the fuck on it’s done it’s over you can’t change it you have over 2000 people in a group that all think the same as you just go tell them you don’t need to be spreading shit here this place is for people finding friendships and pen pals your group is for spite and poison. You were scammed ok we get it your pissed about yep got that too, in fact every time you post a scammer name it makes people look them up and maybe wanna write to them and find out their story. It’s not gonna stop people writing it’s just gonna make them more cautious to find out who those people really are so just cause it dint work out for you maybe your giving them a chance with someone else, just a thought