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Teacher's attorney wants proof of boy's age in teacher-student sex case

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wolfdreamer
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Teacher's attorney wants proof of boy's age in teacher-student sex case

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) - The attorney for a Nebraska middle school teacher who fled to Mexico with an illegal immigrant student amid a sex scandal says he wants proof that the boy is only 13, as authorities are saying.
James Martin Davis says he has information that the boy might be older.
The boy and 25-year-old teacher Kelsey Peterson left Nebraska in late October, and were found in Mexicali, Mexico, on November 2nd.
Peterson faces a federal charge of crossing state lines to have sex with a minor. She also has been charged with felony counts of kidnapping and child abuse and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
The boy's aunt and a Nebraska prosecutor say they are confident the boy is 13.
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Edited by: wolfdreamer on Dec 16 2007 - 11:48am Reason: Imported from old database.
lulu
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see, 25 year old is like nuts to be taking a 13 year old any where. SHE should have known better.

to me, that says " kid napping" all over it.

yup, you are correct, they are mark in prison, as well as a cop being in there.

Anonymous
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Thats what I was thinking, like its just a moot point if he's 13 or whatever. Maybe I misheard the comment but thats what I thought they said on the news like it was a big revelation or something. Im sure its just being put out there by her defense attorney. Who knows.

Anonymous
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I heard something else about this case on the news. Now i guess the teacher is trying to claim that it was the boy's idea to run to Mexico and he told her to take him there. Its kind of ridiculous. I hope that doesnt fly. It seems if an adult, someone over the age of 18 years, takes someone under the age of 18 out of the country or anywhere for that matter without parent permission, there is a problem. I dont care what the boy is claiming now.

lulu
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well it pretty much not going to matter what the boy says, the fact is , he is under age.

lulu
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Ive seen to many cases where some one was under age, lets say, 17 and the guy was 19, it made no mind to what they said,

it actually angers me with this law. IF that person was rape, then by gosh, they need time, but when a kid agrees to have sex with a 19 year old, that aggravate me.

now int his case, she should have known not to take no 13 year old no where, that was how old he was, right?

Anonymous
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Yeah 13 as far as I understand and she was like 25.

There is a difference legally speaking I think in some states as far as how the law looks at sex offenders. They kind of separate them into "child predators" and sexual offenders. A sex offender could be like what you stated, say a 17 year old girl who has consensual sex with a 19 year old boyfriend or what not. Granted he should have known better and he's still in the wrong but it’s not the same class of crime or it’s not given the same designation as a "child predator" which is more along the lines of actual forcible rape or coercion of some kind perpetrated against a child under the age of 18 years. Don’t quote me on this as I’m uncertain so if someone else knows more, feel free to correct me.

However, in prison, man, look out. If you come to prison and are labeled a "sex offender" or "Chester" at ALL, under any circumstances, you can be marked for death and or rape and battery. Basically the yards are run by certain inmates and they are able to look at records when you come in and if you hide anything, the worst will be assumed. It’s a judgment call usually made by whoever is running the yard at that time as to whether you are targeted or cut some slack. Either way, sexual offenders are looked at as weak and men with no character or willpower.

lulu
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how come the family dont know the age? sheesh not enough coffee i reckon or im reading that all wrong

Kid Gallahad
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You know to me this is just a terrible thing. We as parents put trust in the school district to act morally corrrect with our kids. What I mean is to teach our kids not only school curriculumn but to show them a person they can look up too. Now saying that I can say I know people have crushes on their teachers for that reason. But when that happens it is the adult in the situation that needs to play down the situation. I don't care in this case if the kid is 13 or 15. The teacher needed to act accordingly and not think this was ok

whitediamonds
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[COLOR=blue]How did the illegal boy get registered into school? Being Illegal, guess they have no factual proof of his age. In Mexico the laws are much diff as to age adults can have sex with them, did the sex occur in the states?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]If not in the states, is that legal sex or not? Not sure on all the details involved in this one.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#0000ff]I know for whatever reason now days kids look much more developed physically and have more sophisticated awarness mentally then yrs back.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0000ff]Maybe that is one cause so many adults today are having sex w/underage kids, they mentally see them as more mature and loose track of reality. Just a thought since it seems to be getting so prevelent now days, hear this way to much in any area not just teachers. Not any way stating it is right at all, just wondering if just hearing more about these situations or if it is the reasons above?[/COLOR]

lulu
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it looks like it was in mexico

Kid Gallahad
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It started in Nebraska U.S and they ran to Mexico after the District Attorney was investigating because of complaints about the situation.

whitediamonds
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[COLOR=blue]Humm answers that question, now I wonder why females get lighter sentencing then if a man did it, have sex w/ a minor?? [/COLOR]

lulu
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would love to know the answer to that one peanut

Anonymous
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There has always been that double standard. Its nothing built into the law that I can see as that would be unconstitutional to penalize male pedophiles more severely than female, yet in people's minds there seems to be a difference.

The only sociological separation I can see is that since men (and I guess boys) are viewed as the sexual aggressors both physically and usually mentally as well, that they somehow invite the attention and crave it. It’s the fantasy about getting it on with the teacher or the sexy, experienced older lady. We somehow don’t view boys in quite the same way as female children with an older male predator at least culturally we dont. Thats the only explanation I can think of for it.

Kid Gallahad
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I agree asha. i don't know why there is any difference between a male predator or a female predator. Also I think that if the predator works with children daily there shuld be stiffer penalties that way. Not that a predator should be let off lightly but we as parents have to put our trust in these people to teach our children properly and to treat them properly as well.

Anonymous
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I know they are supposed (underline supposed) to do background checks on individuals who work with children, meaning under 18. So that would include teachers, day care workers, nannies that come from services etc...But whether or not this is always done or how thorough these checks are is hard to say and probably varies. The laws might be different from state to state as well. My brother is a school teacher and they did a routine background on him but he’s never been in jail or anything like that. I wonder also if sometimes females are overlooked because people consider them less dangerous somehow. And all a background check is going to show is prior convictions for the most part. It’s not conclusive by any means.

lulu
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im sure they do an investigation, how ever that doesn't mean a crime never took place in that persons life, just means they never got caught.

Anonymous
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And also if charges are dropped I dont think it will show up. I thnk it needs to be a conviction to come up on a person's background check.

smiley
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It is so sad that you cannot even trust an adult, what ever job description they have when it comes to the welfare of your children. It's crazy, but i hesitate even when the kids have school camps or day trips. It is just a sad reality of the real world we live in today......... :(

But on the flip side their are some children/parents that have problems and seek attention by making accusations as well, and end up ruining lives. Whether a person is found guilty or innocent, it really doesn't matter because most people have passed THEIR judgments anyway.

lulu
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And also if charges are dropped I dont think it will show up. I thnk it needs to be a conviction to come up on a person's background check.

actually it will also stay on her record but it will show that the charges was dropped.

lulu
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well let me add, at least in Tx it does.

Anonymous
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Oh thats probably right then, i dont know. But I guess technically if it says the charges were dropped (say it was an accusation of sexual assault or something) then the business probably cant use that as a reason not to hire them because they were not convicted.

lulu
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no, they cant asha, BUT they come up with ways not to hire them

Anonymous
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Well they can say any reason they want not to hire you. That goes for any job, any applicant or employer. They can say you were beat out by someone else which might be the truth. Since you have the right to quit at any time and walk out, they have the right to not hire you or terminate you for any reason.

I guess as far as kids are concerned and who will be interacting with them meaning teachers or day care workers or anyone else that will come in contact with them, you cant wrap your kids up in plastic and hide them from the world. I know some parents that nearly go that far with their kids and it’s abusive in my opinion to shelter them in that manner. I guess its just common sense and not living life in fear and constant worry but at the same time, helping them understand that we don’t live in a magical kingdom here where nothing bad ever happens and bad people don’t exist. I think it actually empowers young children to understand this. But I won’t criticize what works for each individual parent either.

whitediamonds
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[COLOR=blue]Curious too, how can there be a kidnapping chrg, when they ran to Mexico,and he phoned his parents in Mex on the way to let them know where and when should arrive??? [/COLOR]

nostradominos
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[QUOTE=peanut2;881871][COLOR=blue]Humm answers that question, now I wonder why females get lighter sentencing then if a man did it, have sex w/ a minor?? [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Because if a "normal" sex act occurs it is assumed that the male was willing, able, and wanting it. In other words, it is assumed that it was a consensual act.

You can't make that assumption with a female in that same situation. You just cant.

Further, most men can recall a female teacher they were attracted to and recall related teenage fantasies about said teacher... and well... It is a lot easier to see the male in this situation as less than a victim when you can look back on your own adolescence and recall wishing to be so "victimized".

Naturally, I don't speak for all men, nor do I admit to having anything but wholesome thoughts about my teachers in school!

-Ray

whitediamonds
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[COLOR=blue]Well, I Thank You for some insight to my question,,[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#0000ff]Of course I believe you had nothing but, wholesome thoughts on any sexy teacher Nostra :nod:[/COLOR]

lulu
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[QUOTE=peanut2;881989][COLOR=blue]Curious too, how can there be a kidnapping chrg, when they ran to Mexico,and he phoned his parents in Mex on the way to let them know where and when should arrive??? [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

more then likely because she took a minor out of state. in the state we still have statutory rape. No matter if he agreed or not,

moosix
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I heard something else about this case on the news.