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Lie. I did, they didn't check. I'm not saying they won't 100% but somehow I don't think it would REALLY matter.

I'm not telling you to lie but I'm wouldn't tell the truth either. :)

It sounds like a safety net to check if you associate with known gang members. However, is someone who does going to fill that out truthfully? Probably not. Tricky. Lying or breaking rules not encouraged, as others have said.

Yeah, I only wrote to 1 other 1 time and it was for a friend, not myself. So they can't really do much. You said yourself you might not be staying in contact with both from the same prison in another thread, right? So technically if you don't then you won't be lying.

How can they check? There are a 1000 prisons and no central database. How is it possible?

Not that Im telling you what to do or not do but..... You do NOT write to any other inmate, and you knew the inmate BEFORE incarceration. If you answer otherwise it WILL be denied.... AGAIN, it WILL be denied. Make up a bs reason where you met before.... if it sounds even halfway plausible, they will approve you. I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO LIE.... I am just telling you what will happen if you dont... nuff said....

How can they check? There are a 1000 prisons and no central database. How is it possible?

I would assume they rely on the fact that it is a criminal offense to lie on one of those forms and it actually is. They do keep a record in state prisons of whom writes to prisoners, I don't know about Fed prisons. But, the chances of them researching everyone in Fed prisons is slim. I would follow Kam's advice, though as he says, no one is advising you to lie. But, your application WILL be denied if you don't.

yeah i would not mention it, you would have to have known them before they were in prison as well casue of security but they dont really check into it they just want to make sure you are not associated with a gang

I hate lies so very much,but,Believe me,for this,telling the truth it's not gonna help you .....But again,nobody here tell you to lie! :)

LYING = getting approved
TRUTH = You will not see your pp until he is released.....

It is as simple as that. But I am not suggesting that you lie.........

Lmao, you girls need to have the ovaries to just come out and tell her to lie, you're basically saying "I'm not telling you to lie, but definitely lie".

OK Crabhoovez :)

Hey girl, just lie yeah ;p

LIE rc3250, LIE LIE LIE UNTIL YOU CAN'T LIE ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!! :yippie:

(dedicated to crabhoovez) :baeh:

Lie until you glowing with glee :-)

Hi RC! I had the same form with the same question. I filled it in at a moment when I had only written one letter to one other prisoner. I fill in all details from this person and was approved. Of course, NOW I write to a total of 6 prisoners (things got a little bit out of hand) but I have already been approved and they don't come back asking for an update, so.... Also, for anyone from overseas, the explanation that you have been penpals since you were born is acceptable, so you don't even have to go out of your way making up a reason.

Thanks for this help. I'm going to follow my gut here. No need to spill all the beans, right? And just for clarity sake, I'm a guy, not a girl.

RC3250 you are a GUY???!!!!!!

Then DON'T lie dude!!! You guys are TERRIBLE in the lying department.... LOL!!!!!! :laugh:

Au contraire, straight guys are terrible; gay guys, very good. Very very good.

rc3250<===GAY DUDE

Oh! Then LIE until your brain gets dry!!!!!!! lol!!!

Nah, for real, if you want to get approved you need to tell them what they want to hear... Good luck RC! :yup:

Not that Im telling you what to do or not do but..... You do NOT write to any other inmate, and you knew the inmate BEFORE incarceration. If you answer otherwise it WILL be denied.... AGAIN, it WILL be denied. Make up a bs reason where you met before.... if it sounds even halfway plausible, they will approve you. I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO LIE.... I am just telling you what will happen if you dont... nuff said....

On the form it says "You are not required to supply the information requested. However if you do not furnish the information, the processing of your request will be suspended, and you will receive no further consideration. If you furnish only part of the information required, the processing of your request may be significantly delayed....." On the other hand they also state that a false answer can get you up to five years and a $250,000. fine.
I am not telling anyone what to do but a "N/A" (for either Not Applicable or Not Available) seems to appease and is basically a Non-Answer.
I have heard that in the Federal system they are checking the CorrLinks database to check the writing to multiple inmates issue. I have not confirmed that. But then again there are simple ways to circumvent that issue.
The primary aspect that they check is the criminal background issue.
Personally, I believe that the visiting form questionnaires are an invasion of privacy considering all the other safeguards that they have in place. But that is my libertarian opinion.
Some states do not ask for anything but ID and inmate approval and they have no more problems than the states who demand everything but blood type.

Oh god,if they check Corrlinks,am dead...I hope they will not!

I don't think they would bother checking corrlinks.. I am sure they have better things to do than reading the messages people send to the inmates. It would be a time consuming task and I bet none of the prison staff guys would volunteer for it. Anyway, if you are planning on visiting your MWI, it would be a wise idea NOT to mention that you did not know him before his incarceration...just in case!

I sent it already,since two month and half!!I said that I knew him prior of his incarceration of course and of course I don't write to other inmates..hum..
But as I am in France they have to check my background about any felony and it is a first for them to do that oversea,so it is soooooo long,its drive me nut!!!

i wrote on my federal visitation form that i write to penpals from this sight and i got approved , and i did not have to lie

I included those I connect with from jpay. Jaxter: Did you say exactly that, or did you name names?

I don't think they would bother checking corrlinks.. I am sure they have better things to do than reading the messages people send to the inmates. It would be a time consuming task and I bet none of the prison staff guys would volunteer for it. Anyway, if you are planning on visiting your MWI, it would be a wise idea NOT to mention that you did not know him before his incarceration...just in case!

I did not mean to say that they read all the CorrLinks e-mails, but you can be sure that they read some of them. But it would take less time to check the CorrLinks Database to see if a person writes to other inmates than to check the NCIC database for criminal history. I would also not be surprised if part of the contract with JPay and Securus CBS provides for being able to check their databases for other inmates you are writing too. Those databases do include all of your information and the information about who you write to or send money to. I think I will go read the pages of fine print again in what you agree to when you sign-up. While I agree with the observation made by some that CO's are basically typical lazy public servants, using a computer to check a database takes less than a minute. Is this being paranoid? Don't think so.

I did not mean to say that they read all the CorrLinks e-mails, but you can be sure that they read some of them. But it would take less time to check the CorrLinks Database to see if a person writes to other inmates than to check the NCIC database for criminal history. I would also not be surprised if part of the contract with JPay and Securus CBS provides for being able to check their databases for other inmates you are writing too. Those databases do include all of your information and the information about who you write to or send money to. I think I will go read the pages of fine print again in what you agree to when you sign-up. While I agree with the observation made by some that CO's are basically typical lazy public servants, using a computer to check a database takes less than a minute. Is this being paranoid? Don't think so.

I just read through the "Legal Agreements" and "Privacy Policy" for JPay and in fact they can disclose any information they collect to any governmental agency as part of any "investigation" to comply with institutional rules and/or regulations.
[INDENT][INDENT]CONTENT OF THE SERVICE. JPay reserves the right to access, read, preserve, and disclose any information as it reasonably believes is necessary to (a) detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud or security issues (including, without limitation, the filtering of messages and attachments) for its Clients, (b) satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or governmental request, (c) enforce this Terms of Use, including investigation of potential violations hereof, (d) respond to user support requests, or (e) protect the rights, property or safety of JPay and its Clients. JPay will not be responsible or liable for the exercise or non-exercise of its rights under this Terms of Use.[/INDENT][/INDENT]

and also they clearly say that:

[INDENT][INDENT]"JPay may also disclose information that we in good faith believe is necessary to investigate fraud or illegal activity, or to conduct investigations of violations of our User Agreement. JPay will disclose information requested by a regulatory or government authority investigating illegal activities."[/INDENT][/INDENT]

I would think that this gives them the right to give the information upon request to any institution that asks for it. I have not heard that they do, but it appears that they have the right to. So much for our rights to privacy with communication.

I never assume that any communication with someone locked up is private at all. Not only jpay but people at the mail room and possibly other will read it.

I think you shouldn't lie, if you get caught out on it, you may be blacklisted for life. Better one inmate than all of them.

But if he doesn't lie he won't be able to visit! It sucks!!

i said i write to pen pals from write a prisoner.com but i have never visited any , i am approved on one penpals list and still waiting to find out about another ones visits