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KAM

Mine today is that it's my sons 14th birthday.. I smile as he is growing into a great young man, and moan as my little boy disappears...

What is yours?


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whitediamonds

[QUOTE=Metaxu;1180990]There are many physical conditions which necessitate a [U]dependence[/U] on narcotic painkillers... Doesn't make such dependence an addiction or a junkie lifestyle. Just ask any end-stage cancer patient.[/QUOTE]

Of course any four stage cancer patient or condition which necessitate pain pills is different regarding use of pain killers, though I doubt that was behind the pain pills Prince was given which ended his life.

 
Amantha

[QUOTE=Metaxu;1180990]There are many physical conditions which necessitate a [U]dependence[/U] on narcotic painkillers... Doesn't make such dependence an addiction or a junkie lifestyle. Just ask any end-stage cancer patient.[/QUOTE]

What exactly do you think a dependence is? Another word for addiction. If you attend a NA meeting they dont separate the junkies from the ones dependent on drugs prescribed by a doctor. They are the same but if it makes people feel better to classify it as something better then feel free.

 
SidVicious

Though im sure your next post will point out how im wrong.

I could, but what's the point? I ask you questions and you never answer, only selectively reply to things put forward. Maybe this Moxie person you think I am (unless you think I'm someone else today?) can come tell you how you're wrong.

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[QUOTE=Metaxu;1180990]There are many physical conditions which necessitate a [U]dependence[/U] on narcotic painkillers... Doesn't make such dependence an addiction or a junkie lifestyle. Just ask any end-stage cancer patient.[/QUOTE]

This. Thank you.

 
Metaxu

There are many physical conditions which necessitate a [U]dependence[/U] on narcotic painkillers... Doesn't make such dependence an addiction or a junkie lifestyle. Just ask any end-stage cancer patient.

 
whitediamonds

Well if the Media and the public are saying it, then of course it must be true....right? :eyebrow: :rollinglaugh:

I like a sense of humor.

 
Earthmother

The media & the public are already saying he has AIDs !!! Unreal..........Must have a lot of psychics out there. LOL

Well if the Media and the public are saying it, then of course it must be true....right? :eyebrow: :rollinglaugh:

 
whitediamonds

The media & the public are already saying he has AIDs !!! Unreal..........Must have a lot of psychics out there. LOL

 
Earthmother

Seems to me these are the same things...pot, kettle you know.

Addiction, dependence, addict, druggie, junkie...all really the same thing. Maybe he didnt begin the drugs with the same mindset as an addict but he ended up in the same place. He just took a different route. The end goal is the same, to get off the drugs and and someone with a "dependency" has the same physical withdrawal symptoms as an addict. The only difference between Prince and a junkie is social status and money. Though im sure your next post will point out how im wrong.

Again, it is a case of making the mistake of taking stories based on hearsay, rumor, and supposition as gospel truth without adequate proof of guilt. Why not wait for the actual autopsy report instead of making assumptions?

 
whitediamonds

My point was the end result is the same.

Of course the end result is the same, not a good one or pretty.

 
Amantha

Addictions from medical drugs(pain killers) which doctor's have freely given out caused many to become addicted to them. Junkies get illegal drugs from the streets, sole purpose to get high.

My point was the end result is the same.

 
whitediamonds

Seems to me these are the same things...pot, kettle you know.

Addiction, dependence, addict, druggie, junkie...all really the same thing. Maybe he didnt begin the drugs with the same mindset as an addict but he ended up in the same place. He just took a different route. The end goal is the same, to get off the drugs and and someone with a "dependency" has the same physical withdrawal symptoms as an addict. The only difference between Prince and a junkie is social status and money. Though im sure your next post will point out how im wrong.

Addictions from medical drugs(pain killers) which doctor's have freely given out caused many to become addicted to them. Junkies get illegal drugs from the streets, sole purpose to get high.

 
Amantha

What I think is that you're one of those who has to absolutely be right no matter what, and I'm one who has to correct people when I feel they're wrong. So yes... It's a good idea not to discuss this with me any further.

Seems to me these are the same things...pot, kettle you know.

Addiction, dependence, addict, druggie, junkie...all really the same thing. Maybe he didnt begin the drugs with the same mindset as an addict but he ended up in the same place. He just took a different route. The end goal is the same, to get off the drugs and and someone with a "dependency" has the same physical withdrawal symptoms as an addict. The only difference between Prince and a junkie is social status and money. Though im sure your next post will point out how im wrong.

 
whitediamonds

Personally I like to remember the good one brought. Media & some people just want the crap.

Just like some refuse to watch an actor's movies, like Mel Gibson movies now for example, I still like watching his movies. Makes no sense to me to not stop watching the movies I like with him in, no matter what his view or personal life happens.

 
SidVicious

What is clear to me is that you will say whatever you possibly can in an attempt to portray things in a more positive light, likely due to the fact that you are a fan. I get it. As I think I mentioned, I remember identical behavior during the MJ fiasco.

You can choose believe what you like. I am done discussing this with you.

Wow. Okay. So being sensible, saying people should step back a bit and not use gossip and speculation as gospel is trying to put a spin on things. Got it. You have all of these problems with me trying to be rational and correcting some erroneous statements but absolutely no issue with someone up there saying he "probably had AIDS" while preaching to me about furthering the stigma of opioid dependency? My level of fandom has zero to do with this.

What I think is that you're one of those who has to absolutely be right no matter what, and I'm one who has to correct people when I feel they're wrong. So yes... It's a good idea not to discuss this with me any further.

 
ChiTownRob

That actually came from the Minneapolis newspaper who got that information from the lawyer of the doctor that was allegedly contacted. Now, ask yourself this: Was that doctor possibly violating HIPPA laws by letting this out in order to help people or doing this to get attention for his practice? Was there ANY reason for that other than to get attention? What doctor in their right mind would violate patient confidentiality like this? Just think about that.

If anyone here is "furthering the stigma" of opioid dependency it's two people in this discussion and I'm neither one of them. It's the one who called him a "druggie..." who "probably had AIDS" and the other one shamefully spewing out gossip and speculation while continuously calling him an addict and implying that he could have only OD'd by way of heroin. I think I'm the one who is trying to get people to stop latching on to the words of people who have something to gain by coming out with all of these stories. I wasn't aware that correcting misunderstandings was stigmatizing people who have serious dependency and addictive issues.

So yes, hopefully in his death light will be shined upon the serious issue when it comes to all things associated with this. But constantly putting out heresay speculation and gossip, making this man out to be some kind of drug addicted freak is NOT going to help things at all.

What is clear to me is that you will say whatever you possibly can in an attempt to portray things in a more positive light, likely due to the fact that you are a fan. I get it. As I think I mentioned, I remember identical behavior during the MJ fiasco.

You can choose believe what you like. I am done discussing this with you.

 
SidVicious

That actually came from the Minneapolis newspaper who got that information from the lawyer of the doctor that was allegedly contacted. Now, ask yourself this: Was that doctor possibly violating HIPPA laws by letting this out in order to help people or doing this to get attention for his practice? Was there ANY reason for that other than to get attention? What doctor in their right mind would violate patient confidentiality like this? Just think about that.

You can choose to remember him however you like. His fame an musical ability, in this context anyway, is only important as it might give wide audience to other people out there as to the dangers of opiate addiction; that is can happen to anybody and not just skid row types. Your attempts to sugar coat things only helps to further the stigma and assumed badge of shame against those who suffer from addiction problems and make them that much less likely to seek out the help they so desperately need before it is too late.

If anyone here is "furthering the stigma" of opioid dependency it's two people in this discussion and I'm neither one of them. It's the one who called him a "druggie..." who "probably had AIDS" and the other one shamefully spewing out gossip and speculation while continuously calling him an addict and implying that he could have only OD'd by way of heroin. I think I'm the one who is trying to get people to stop latching on to the words of people who have something to gain by coming out with all of these stories. I wasn't aware that correcting misunderstandings was stigmatizing people who have serious dependency and addictive issues.

So yes, hopefully in his death light will be shined upon the serious issue when it comes to all things associated with this. But constantly putting out heresay speculation and gossip, making this man out to be some kind of drug addicted freak is NOT going to help things at all.

 
Earthmother

OK, so he was not an addict. And yet, according to the Washington Post (which is hardly a fringe source):

His representatives contacted a doctor in California, who happens to specialize in the treatment of opiate addiction, for an appointment. They felt the situation was so dire they flew someone to meet him. He brought with him Buprenorphine, a drug used to treat opioid addiction. 6 Days prior after completing a show in Atlanta, his plane made an emergency landing because he was overdosing on opioids and his bodyguards had to carry him to waiting paramedics to administer a shot of Narcan (an opiate anecdote). He was also admitted to a hospital and left against medical advice.

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Again, it's still all just rumors and stories told by side line people, rather than confirmed facts.

I don't know what the true story is.
Neither do you.
No one does yet.
Maybe no one ever will.

In light of everything else going on in the world, do the details of one mans death even matter that much?

 
ChiTownRob

Addiction is not the same as physical dependence and if any addiction counselor tells you that they need to have their credentials reevaluated. Addiction can result in dependence, but dependence is not always accompanied or started by an addiction. People become very dependent on pain medication. Doesn't mean they're all addicts. People become dependent on their antidepressants. Doesn't mean they're addicts.

Right now all of these stories coming out are coming from people who either want attention or money (or both). They're all rumor and speculation. I honestly don't know why people (in general) are so gossipy about this man. I could understand if he lead a life of scandal and was constantly in the news for something but..... well, maybe that's why. The man was a private guy when he was living. Very few really knew him. Maybe that's why this is such a juicy story. I don't know. I just wish people would leave him alone and remember him for his music like he wanted to be remembered.

OK, so he was not an addict. And yet, according to the Washington Post (which is hardly a fringe source):

His representatives contacted a doctor in California, who happens to specialize in the treatment of opiate addiction, for an appointment. They felt the situation was so dire they flew someone to meet him. He brought with him Buprenorphine, a drug used to treat opioid addiction. 6 Days prior after completing a show in Atlanta, his plane made an emergency landing because he was overdosing on opioids and his bodyguards had to carry him to waiting paramedics to administer a shot of Narcan (an opiate anecdote). He was also admitted to a hospital and left against medical advice.

You can choose to remember him however you like. His fame an musical ability, in this context anyway, is only important as it might give wide audience to other people out there as to the dangers of opiate addiction; that is can happen to anybody and not just skid row types. Your attempts to sugar coat things only helps to further the stigma and assumed badge of shame against those who suffer from addiction problems and make them that much less likely to seek out the help they so desperately need before it is too late.

 
whitediamonds

Addiction is not the same as physical dependence and if any addiction counselor tells you that they need to have their credentials reevaluated. Addiction can result in dependence, but dependence is not always accompanied or started by an addiction. People become very dependent on pain medication. Doesn't mean they're all addicts. People become dependent on their antidepressants. Doesn't mean they're addicts.

Right now all of these stories coming out are coming from people who either want attention or money (or both). They're all rumor and speculation. I honestly don't know why people (in general) are so gossipy about this man. I could understand if he lead a life of scandal and was constantly in the news for something but..... well, maybe that's why. The man was a private guy when he was living. Very few really knew him. Maybe that's why this is such a juicy story. I don't know. I just wish people would leave him alone and remember him for his music like he wanted to be remembered.

High Five !!!

 
SidVicious

Addiction is not the same as physical dependence and if any addiction counselor tells you that they need to have their credentials reevaluated. Addiction can result in dependence, but dependence is not always accompanied or started by an addiction. People become very dependent on pain medication. Doesn't mean they're all addicts. People become dependent on their antidepressants. Doesn't mean they're addicts.

Right now all of these stories coming out are coming from people who either want attention or money (or both). They're all rumor and speculation. I honestly don't know why people (in general) are so gossipy about this man. I could understand if he lead a life of scandal and was constantly in the news for something but..... well, maybe that's why. The man was a private guy when he was living. Very few really knew him. Maybe that's why this is such a juicy story. I don't know. I just wish people would leave him alone and remember him for his music like he wanted to be remembered.

 
Earthmother

All of the stories surrounding his death are still just supposition. Until the autopsy report is released - if it even is released - it's like toothless old hags sitting around in dank basements gossiping because they lack anything more constructive to do today. I mean does anyone actually believe the people who are telling all of these stories about Prince are doing so out of the goodness of their little blessed hearts? Nope...it's because they are getting PAID for whatever juicy tidbits the papers print, and the papers really don't care what the true truth is as long as they sell lots of sensationalized copies.

 
ChiTownRob

I wouldn't even call him an opiate abuser. I think he was probably extremely physically dependent on them. I don't see the two as being the same, just as I don't see someone who is physically dependent as being an addict, or a "druggie." He may very well have had Oxy. That's the thing. We keep hearing Percocet and Vicodin when the fact is no one knows. Everything at this point is nothing more than rumor and speculation. But your last sentence? Truth right there. Doctors are too connected with the pharmaceutical companies. It's all one big money racket. All of it.

if you are a frequent enough user that your body has developed a physical dependency to opiates, then you are most certainly a drug abuser. Any addiction counselor on the planet would say the same. To attempt to paint a picture otherwise is the height of cognitive dissonance. He obviously came to the realization that he was in deep trouble. He was attempting to reach out for help, which is often the most difficult step for many people in a similar situation and something that takes a great deal of courage. Unfortunately it came too late, which is sad indeed.

As you point out, we may never know what role drug addiction played in his death, but one this is for sure; it certainly did not help.

 
SidVicious

I wouldn't even call him an opiate abuser. I think he was probably extremely physically dependent on them. I don't see the two as being the same, just as I don't see someone who is physically dependent as being an addict, or a "druggie." He may very well have had Oxy. That's the thing. We keep hearing Percocet and Vicodin when the fact is no one knows. Everything at this point is nothing more than rumor and speculation. But your last sentence? Truth right there. Doctors are too connected with the pharmaceutical companies. It's all one big money racket. All of it.

 
ChiTownRob

True, it seems, despite what I hear on the news. Though the CDC does differentiate between natural and synthetic compounds, as well as prescription and illicit, with Fentanyl and Heroin apparently surging in that department.

Increases in Drug and Opioid Overdose Deaths — United States, 2000–2014

What is clear is that he was abusing opiates. It seems unlikely he was shooting up. If he was then somebody would of likely seen track marks, which Heroin addicts always have a hard time hiding for any length of time. Though why Percocet I wonder? Someone with his connections I am sure would have no problems scoring Oxy, which is the holy grail of pills for opiate junkies.

In any event, US doctors WAY overprescribe persecution painkillers which is what is fueling the current Heroin epidemic.

 
SidVicious

Just in: Irish Singer(and friend) of Prince, Sinead O'Conner
has said that former late night host Arsenio Hall was the first
person to give Prince drugs.
Also known as Pain Killer pills.(Sad but true)

Sinead O'Connor also said that Prince physically assaulted her and she had to "escape" from his house at 3 in the morning. Earlier versions of her story was that he yelled at her, so believe which ever story you want. Let's not discuss how Sinead has been having severe mental health issues recently, publicly threatened suicide on her Facebook page and other assorted shenanigans. I would take everything she has to say with half a grain of salt.

Well, looks like he was a druggie. Another artist throwing away their life. He probably did have AIDS too. Guess it wasnt just to sell papers.

If he did have an opioid dependency I would hardly consider that to make him a "druggie," unless you also want to call people dependent on all kinds of prescription drugs, from pain killers to antidepressants, druggies. The original story still makes sense, but as I said before, it's not sexy enough to sell papers. Also, may I ask how you think he also had AIDS? Because he had a dependency issue that, if this new story is true, he was seeking help for? Makes no sense to me. Then again, you've proven yourself to be quite judgmental, so maybe you're thinking this way because he didn't have as high morals as you did.

Still, it's fairly difficult to die from taking Percocet orally, especially for a seasoned addict that has a high tolerance. Most people that die from opioid overdoses do so from IV injections, specifically Heroin.

This is simply not true. At least half of the people who die from opioid overdose do so via prescription medication.

 
ChiTownRob

double post.

 
ChiTownRob

Well, looks like he was a druggie. Another artist throwing away their life. He probably did have AIDS too. Guess it wasnt just to sell papers.

I saw a blip of that this morning on the news as I was heading out the door. Looks like he was struggling with opioid dependency, which I highly suspected. Still, it's fairly difficult to die from taking Percocet orally, especially for a seasoned addict that has a high tolerance. Most people that die from opioid overdoses do so from IV injections, specifically Heroin.

 
Amantha

Well, looks like he was a druggie. Another artist throwing away their life. He probably did have AIDS too. Guess it wasnt just to sell papers.

 
ChiTownRob

"He was a druggy." No.
It's all a matter of which source you find more credible and believable. You have the tabloids discussing AIDS and other implying he was a druggy. Which, you know, people have to do in order to sell papers and make their money. The logical possible explanation came out real quick, and it seems to be the one no one wants to discuss anymore. He was ill, with the flu (which is known), and he was taking meds for that, which would include codiene, an opioid. He was also taking Percocet, an opioid, for years for a valid reason, not because he was addicted to them, as he had hip issues and, being how his religion forbids blood transfusions, he never got the surgery for it. Mix too much opioids together and you've got an OD situation. But that explanation is less "sexy" than the others. It's just funny to me. People crapped all over Michael Jackson when he was alive then suddenly there was a massive love fest when he died and now it's like the opposite is happening this time. (Although there are people loving on him too.)

The American public is a fickle and unpredictable animal. And even though his music does not do a thing for me, nor did MJ's, it's hard to deny that he made significant contributions to the industry that will go on to influence the newer generations for some time. As to how he died? Maybe we will find out, maybe not. The family is under no obligation to disclose this information.

 
SidVicious

"He was a druggy." No.
It's all a matter of which source you find more credible and believable. You have the tabloids discussing AIDS and other implying he was a druggy. Which, you know, people have to do in order to sell papers and make their money. The logical possible explanation came out real quick, and it seems to be the one no one wants to discuss anymore. He was ill, with the flu (which is known), and he was taking meds for that, which would include codiene, an opioid. He was also taking Percocet, an opioid, for years for a valid reason, not because he was addicted to them, as he had hip issues and, being how his religion forbids blood transfusions, he never got the surgery for it. Mix too much opioids together and you've got an OD situation. But that explanation is less "sexy" than the others. It's just funny to me. People crapped all over Michael Jackson when he was alive then suddenly there was a massive love fest when he died and now it's like the opposite is happening this time. (Although there are people loving on him too.)

 
Amantha

Im sure the cause of death will be disclosed once the autopsy is completed. Im sure the cause of death is either going to make him more infamous or people will just feel sorry for him like MJ and Whitney Houston wasting their lives like they did.

 
ChiTownRob

Really don't care about the statue. More saying that it's a shame a seemingly smart guy buys into tabloid reporting. And actually, this was a rumor that started by a gossip website about a week before he passed, not the Enquirer. Being a fan of someone doesn't make it to where you're more or less inclined to believe tabloid gossip. (My comment about letting him rest in peace was directed to the incredible amount of speculation and gossip going around about the reason he died... People are just making things up now and it's gross.)

Granted most of their stories are pure nonsense, but they have also broken some pretty big stories too (Tiger Woods, OJ's case details, Jesse Jackson, Rush Limbaugh, etc. etc. etc.) They lack credibility because they pay money for information and sources, which no legit journalistic operation would do. Sure, they could be wrong, and if they are then more power to the estate to sue them with extreme prejudice.

He was a druggy and Percocet is an opiate which can also kill you in high enough concentrations. Or who knows? it could be a combo or many factors. His autopsy should be out in a few weeks I am hearing, but I am guessing it wont be made public.

 
SidVicious

Really don't care about the statue. More saying that it's a shame a seemingly smart guy buys into tabloid reporting. And actually, this was a rumor that started by a gossip website about a week before he passed, not the Enquirer. Being a fan of someone doesn't make it to where you're more or less inclined to believe tabloid gossip. (My comment about letting him rest in peace was directed to the incredible amount of speculation and gossip going around about the reason he died... People are just making things up now and it's gross.)

 
ChiTownRob

You seem like a smart guy, which makes it a shame that you seem to take tabloid reporting as truth.

Anyway, can't the guy just rest in peace without the speculations? But... I guess when you had no big shocking scandal when you were alive people have to make scandal when you're dead.

That is the appropriate legal statute which applies. The NE broke the story and they have indeed been sued in the past when they have been overzealous and got it wrong. If the estate was going to sue, they would of filed an injunction by now to force sources to pull the story pending a judgement from the court. That they haven't is curious, considering it would be a slam dunk if they had the proof, and win a settlement in the millions.

That said, that I am obviously not a fan boy, so I really do not care much. I was still in undergrad when MJ died and all the females went nuts. Similar situation here are far as the press and fanfare.

 
SidVicious

You seem like a smart guy, which makes it a shame that you seem to take tabloid reporting as truth.

Anyway, can't the guy just rest in peace without the speculations? But... I guess when you had no big shocking scandal when you were alive people have to make scandal when you're dead.

 
ChiTownRob

I wouldn't place much trust in tabloid reporting TBH.

If that is really the case then his estate has an airtight lawsuit for libel and defamation. They would only have to prove that it is a lie. Conversely, in the US anyway, truth is a 100% protection against libel and slander statues.

 
Earthmother

Perhaps, but an AIDS diagnosis probably did not help either.

I wouldn't place much trust in tabloid reporting TBH.

 
gooddog

I can't stand those "know it all" types of people. I am been known to refer to that ilk of folks as people who were in the Civil war. No matter what you say they've done it all. So sorry for your pain.

This subject has been on the forum before. When it was brought up in the past by a former member he made me laugh out loud by putting it this way: If you tell one of these types of people that you just went on vacation somewhere, they will retort, "Oh yeah? Well, I was just riding on a UFO..."

Anything to one up you, turn it around so it's about them, or somehow play off what you're saying to make themselves look better and more important. Annoying is putting it mildly!
It's really hard to ignore them when they are acting up.

 
gooddog

When all is said and done how Prince died it will
be from some kind of too much painkiller pills.

Mark my words.

I am very much hoping this is not true, what a shame it would be, but unfortunately extremely predictable in the entertainment industry. I'm so hoping it isn't true. I want to believe that prolific musical genius worth 300 million dollars can find some way to have made it through life without an opiate addiction but since so many with far less seem to fall to it....
I'm not willing to believe this about him until it's proven.

Every interview I am hearing, no one has a bad word to say about him, and about how he helped out so many of his fellow artists, launching other people's careers. For once, I want it to be just a really nice, private, eccentric guy that died an untimely death without drugs and alcohol causing it.

 
natalieandjames

I'm in charge of 20 staff of various nationalities. The biggest tool is this guy from California. Privileged pampered arsehole who is beyond negative and sucks all the joy out of anything. I have to chair meetings every week and I hate chairing the meetings he is in because he is just such a know-it-all t**t who, if I wasn't his boss, I would tell him how the world really sees him. He's 10 years older than me so he hates "the Young Turk" being his boss.
He can f**k off. That is all.

I can't stand those "know it all" types of people. I am been known to refer to that ilk of folks as people who were in the Civil war. No matter what you say they've done it all. So sorry for your pain.

 
Sporadium

I'm in charge of 20 staff of various nationalities. The biggest tool is this guy from California. Privileged pampered arsehole who is beyond negative and sucks all the joy out of anything. I have to chair meetings every week and I hate chairing the meetings he is in because he is just such a know-it-all t**t who, if I wasn't his boss, I would tell him how the world really sees him. He's 10 years older than me so he hates "the Young Turk" being his boss.
He can f**k off. That is all.

 
A Driver For Hire

Smile ... I'm in South Africa for the first time!

Moan ... the first day started at 7 a.m., ended at 11 p.m. and consisted of being inside meeting rooms.

Yep, smoan ...

 
Gipsy

The day started off as shitty as possible.
The child woke up before 7. The Hubs got all pissy because he went to bed too late and then I got all pissy because he behaved like a d*ck. So we got into a huge argument. And all that basically before 10am while I was getting ready for work.
One of the seriously bad prison habits he just can't shake completely is turning arguments into "The stronger one wins", so he'll go a notch above everything I say. It takes a while to get me really mad but when he starts that sh*t it drives me wild. And he knows it, and I know it, but we're only humans.

So I left fuming. And as usual as soon as we had 30min apart it's all "I'm sorry. This isn't how we should argue. I understand your frustration, etc." From both sides. And it's true. So it's good. We're fine. I like how we see that once we're apart. But why the heck can't we when we're together? Feelings. I swear!

 
Amantha

its not really anything to smile about. but there is a moan.

my mother lives in an assisted living place, she is always moaning about a woman that lets for dog run down the stairs on a long lead, she is forever shouting at her and complaining about her in the office.. saying its dangerous which it is.. I just got a call she is in A&E after falling over her own dog on the stairs. she has broken and dislocated her ankle. Karma or what lol.
we have never really got on.
but now it means she will have to come here while she recovers as I live 90 miles away and wont be able to go to her on a day to day basis. a week is about all I can manage before I'm tearing my hair out.. she never has liked my husband so she will be gloating and going on about that.. NOW I'm going to be stressed and really don't need this right now..

I will hope for a fast and stressless recovery. Come back and vent if it gets to be too much.

 
DanPal

its not really anything to smile about. but there is a moan.

my mother lives in an assisted living place, she is always moaning about a woman that lets for dog run down the stairs on a long lead, she is forever shouting at her and complaining about her in the office.. saying its dangerous which it is.. I just got a call she is in A&E after falling over her own dog on the stairs. she has broken and dislocated her ankle. Karma or what lol.
we have never really got on.
but now it means she will have to come here while she recovers as I live 90 miles away and wont be able to go to her on a day to day basis. a week is about all I can manage before I'm tearing my hair out.. she never has liked my husband so she will be gloating and going on about that.. NOW I'm going to be stressed and really don't need this right now..

Oh, Gosh. Sounds like that's going to be 'fun' :( I hope she heals well - and fast!

It IS kind of funny, though, that she got herself in a 'tangle' with her do,g when she was so concerned about someone else's safety hazard ;)

 
FreakLikeMe

its not really anything to smile about. but there is a moan.

my mother lives in an assisted living place, she is always moaning about a woman that lets for dog run down the stairs on a long lead, she is forever shouting at her and complaining about her in the office.. saying its dangerous which it is.. I just got a call she is in A&E after falling over her own dog on the stairs. she has broken and dislocated her ankle. Karma or what lol.
we have never really got on.
but now it means she will have to come here while she recovers as I live 90 miles away and wont be able to go to her on a day to day basis. a week is about all I can manage before I'm tearing my hair out.. she never has liked my husband so she will be gloating and going on about that.. NOW I'm going to be stressed and really don't need this right now..

 
Earthmother

Notes to self:
Drinking coffee after 10pm may seem like a good idea at the time, but it's really not.
It's okay to imagine yourself kneecapping someone, but you probably shouldn't act on it. ( I don't think I'm really cut out for prison.)
There will always be arseholes in your world; try to stay clean of their crap.

 
natalieandjames

I'm in the midst of the same thing. For a long time I was my last priority...it's super nice lavishing my money on myself for a change.

Did you score any 29th deals yesterday?!

Good for you! :)

$50 dollars off.....I'm thinking yeah!!!

 
Saskatchewanian

I think I have developed a online shopping addiction. Lol!! For so long I never did jack squat for myself. Think I've gone off the deep end. Beats buying stamps and envelopes.

I'm in the midst of the same thing. For a long time I was my last priority...it's super nice lavishing my money on myself for a change.

Did you score any 29th deals yesterday?!

Good for you! :)

 
natalieandjames

I think I have developed a online shopping addiction. Lol!! For so long I never did jack squat for myself. Think I've gone off the deep end. Beats buying stamps and envelopes.